Are you satisfied with the TRUMP-CLINTON race?

[Chaddyr23]

Im satisfied that Clinton won the Democratic primary.

I'm strongly disappointed that Donald Trump won the Republican primary.

Same

[Anna Komnene]

Not at all satisfied.  I have serious reservations about Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her temperament.  This is the same person that quit being SoS 3 years ago because she said she was too tired and wasn't interesting in holding political office anymore.  It also annoys me that some great female democrats that I would have supported in a heartbeat didn't run because of her coronation.

As for Trump, pretty much every bad thing that's been said about him on this forum is true.

Terrible election.

...what? Very few cabinet members stay for all 8 years of a president's time in office. For Obama, literally only one person (Vilsack) has.

She's the only one of them that's running for President.  Besides, it's still true that she claimed she was stepping down because she was too tired.

[IceSpear]

Not at all satisfied.  I have serious reservations about Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her temperament.  This is the same person that quit being SoS 3 years ago because she said she was too tired and wasn't interesting in holding political office anymore.  It also annoys me that some great female democrats that I would have supported in a heartbeat didn't run because of her coronation.

As for Trump, pretty much every bad thing that's been said about him on this forum is true.

Terrible election.

...what? Very few cabinet members stay for all 8 years of a president's time in office. For Obama, literally only one person (Vilsack) has.

She's the only one of them that's running for President.  Besides, it's still true that she claimed she was stepping down because she was too tired.

So a cabinet member is disqualified for president unless they serve all 8 years? I've never heard that before.

Good thing 2 years of rest was enough for her to get untired, so she can now be our glorious nominee.

[Anna Komnene]

No, my problem is with the reason that she stepped down, not the fact that she stepped down.  It doesn't disqualify her from being president either.  I just think it's one reason why putting trust in her for the next 4-8 years is a mistake.

[RI]

Not at all.

[chrisras]

These are the worst candidates...by far...In history.  Trump is probably clinically insane and Hillary is the core of the corrupted political elite ruling establishment class. 

[Kingpoleon]

No. I might support Trump because I agree with him on SSM, pro-choice abortion, universal healthcare, fair but free trade, and the Powell Doctrine.

This is the worst election choice since 1972, before that 1964, and before that as far back as 1904.

[Mr. Morden]

People forget that Hillary was considered "inevitable" originally not because of her strength or that the party was rigging the primary towards her, but because the Democratic bench for President is pretty much nothing. Coming into 2016, pre-Trump when many were expecting the Republicans to be favored, the only candidates talked about as having a chance at winning the general were Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, John Hickenlooper, and maybe Kirsten Gillibrand or Elizabeth Warren if Hillary said no.

I don't agree with that at all.  There were plenty of potential presidential candidates who would have had as good a chance as anyone in a general election, who simply chose not to run because it was clear to them that they couldn't beat Hillary Clinton for the nomination.  I'm pretty much with Jonathan Bernstein on this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-03-12/democrats-have-no-bench-be-serious-

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I'll go down this list:

-Martin O'Malley

We saw how well he did.

-Elizabeth Warren

-Would have loved

-Andrew Cuomo

Every crazy thing r/bernieforpresident says about Hillary can be accurately said about Cuomo.

-Al Franken, Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Michael Bennet, Jeanne Shaheen, John Hickenlooper, Maggie Hassan

"Generic Democrats only brought up because they are from swing states"

-Mike Beebe



-Christine Gregoire

Wasn't even that popular in Washington, Hillary-lite

-Sherrod Brown

-Again, would have been great but not sure if he makes for a good presidential candidate

-Kirsten Gillibrand

Hillary-lite

-Deval Patrick

Bain Capital employee

I think you are conflating general election appeal with primary appeal.  Clinton was going to inevitably dominate the “establishment lane” in the Democratic primary this year, which is why O’Malley did so poorly.  Does that mean that O’Malley would have done poorly in a general election campaign, if he were the nominee?  I don’t think so.  Same with all the people you dismissed as “generic Democrats from swing states”.  Why would being a generic Democrat be problematic in a general election when the Republican brand is in worse shape than the Democratic brand?  Why would “Hillary-lite” so obviously be a worse candidate than Hillary herself?  And why would you think that Deval Patrick would still go to work for Bain Capital in 2015 in a universe where he decides to run for president in ’16 instead?

Most of those people have low profiles because they didn’t end up laying the groundwork for a presidential run in the same way that folks like Marco Rubio and Scott Walker did on the Republican side three years ago.  However, in a universe where Clinton doesn’t run (and makes that abundantly clear back in 2013), many more candidates would have run, and we would have gotten to see which were good candidates and which weren’t.  Sure, some of these guys would have been duds.  But I don’t see why you would call it a thin bench.  There are plenty of potential candidates who could have run and done well sans Clinton.

[NHI]

Yes, for the most part.
A Clinton-Rubio race would have been more idealistic or a Clinton-Christie race might have been like a Trump-Clinton race, only w/o the incendiary rhetoric and bravado.

[Sir Mohamed]

With Hillary, I’m absolutely satisfied. Not so with the Trumpster. He’s disgrace and a shame for this great country and even his party, which has, I have to say, a proud history for being to party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Ike.