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Question: Who wins on November 8th, 2016?
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« on: February 13, 2016, 02:34:05 PM »

Everyone saying Trump is gonna win has me scratching my head.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 02:35:09 PM »

It's Hillary's to lose.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 02:35:14 PM »

Everyone saying Trump is gonna win has me scratching my head.

Agreed. Same with Sanders vs. Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 02:35:21 PM »

Trump. No way Hillary wins the turnout game.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 02:38:47 PM »


If there's anything that this primary has proven so far, it's that Hillary is excellent at losing.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2016, 02:48:19 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2016, 02:51:07 PM by L.D. Smith »

Yes, and that's all I can say.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2016, 02:49:50 PM »

Trump is the best Republican candidate in a generation, so it would be close. I don't know. He'd crush Sanders but I think Hillary could possibly pull it out with a little luck.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 03:03:43 PM »

Clinton would win big. It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws and the map would look similar to 2008.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 03:07:24 PM »



Hillary Rodham Clinton: 347 EV's, 52% PV
Donald John Trump: 191 EV's, 45% PV

Arizona barely goes to TRUMP.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »

Clinton would win big. It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws and the map would look similar to 2008.

And it's not easy to exploit Clinton's flaws?  She lost 92-6 in the honest & trustworthy category against Sanders in NH, for crying out loud.

Today, I would say Clinton.  But Trump would be absolutely ruthless in a campaign against her.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 03:09:04 PM »


If there's anything that this primary has proven so far, it's that Hillary is excellent at losing.

True that.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 03:10:58 PM »

It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws

Then why aren't the other Republican candidates doing it?

Because many of his flaws are popular with the Republican base and it wouldn't do them much good to attack from the left. A general election electorate includes more moderates who are put off by Trump's views.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 03:14:19 PM »

Clinton would win big. It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws and the map would look similar to 2008.

And it's not easy to exploit Clinton's flaws?  She lost 92-6 in the honest & trustworthy category against Sanders in NH, for crying out loud.

Today, I would say Clinton.  But Trump would be absolutely ruthless in a campaign against her.

When it comes to facing someone who has said some extremely crazy things, Clinton's so-called issues will be dwarfed in comparison. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 03:25:30 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2016, 03:38:42 PM by RR1997 »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% 30% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 03:28:31 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Polls indicate Trump is holding Romney's numbers with Hispanics. Trump is likely to win 63-66% of whites, which will be more than enough to pull off a 50-48 victory.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016, 03:28:40 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016, 03:34:57 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Hillary's favorables aren't good either.  They are in the low 40s, iirc.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016, 03:38:05 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Hillary's favorables aren't good either.  They are in the low 40s, iirc.

Never mind, I made a mistake. Trump's approval ratings are actually at 30%, while Hillary's are at 42%. A man with a 30% approval rating will never step in the White House.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016, 03:41:50 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Polls indicate Trump is holding Romney's numbers with Hispanics. Trump is likely to win 63-66% of whites, which will be more than enough to pull off a 50-48 victory.

Against Hillary Clinton, the white vote will not be 66-34. And even if Trump makes modest gains with the white vote, the overall share of the electorate will be LESS white in 2016 than 2012. And holding Romney numbers with Hispanics is awful. Further, whatever gains Trump makes with working class whites will be off-set by the losses with educated whites.


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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016, 03:42:53 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Hillary's favorables aren't good either.  They are in the low 40s, iirc.

Never mind, I made a mistake. Trump's approval ratings are actually at 30%, while Hillary's are at 42%. A man with a 30% approval rating will never step in the White House.

It depends on the poll:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 03:44:28 PM »

Trump is not going to come close to winning. He's down by 8 points nationally, he has a 36% favorability rating, and any of the minuscule gains that he makes with white working-class voters will easily be made up by Hispanics and Asians turning out at record levels.

Polls indicate Trump is holding Romney's numbers with Hispanics. Trump is likely to win 63-66% of whites, which will be more than enough to pull off a 50-48 victory.

Trump is not getting 63-66% of the white vote. Trump will do modestly better with working class whites, but Hillary is going to CRUSH Trump with well-educated whites. IIRC, many polls have shown that Trump would do worse with the white vote than Romney did.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 04:25:30 PM »



Hillary Rodham Clinton: 347 EV's, 52% PV
Donald John Trump: 191 EV's, 45% PV

Arizona barely goes to TRUMP.

This map seems about right to me.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 04:40:27 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2016, 04:46:00 PM by Figueira »

Clinton would win big. It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws and the map would look similar to 2008.

And it's not easy to exploit Clinton's flaws?  She lost 92-6 in the honest & trustworthy category against Sanders in NH, for crying out loud.

Today, I would say Clinton.  But Trump would be absolutely ruthless in a campaign against her.

No. 92% of the people who consider "honesty and trustworthiness" to be their most important voting factor voted for Sanders. All it means is that hardly anyone thinks that Clinton is more trustworthy and honest than Sanders, which kind of goes without saying.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 05:00:18 PM »

Clinton would win big. It's fairly easy to exploit Trump's flaws and the map would look similar to 2008.

And it's not easy to exploit Clinton's flaws?  She lost 92-6 in the honest & trustworthy category against Sanders in NH, for crying out loud.

Today, I would say Clinton.  But Trump would be absolutely ruthless in a campaign against her.

No. 92% of the people who consider "honesty and trustworthiness" to be their most important voting factor voted for Sanders. All it means is that hardly anyone thinks that Clinton is more trustworthy and honest than Sanders, which kind of goes without saying.

My post was unclear, but I did understand that when writing it.  Regardless, it's a pretty glaring problem to lose by such a monumental margin in that category.

As someone who would support Hillary against Donald, I think it would be very unwise to take a win against him for granted.  He has proven that he knows how to run a campaign, and will hit Hillary on a host of issues on which she is vulnerable, including but not limited to the emails, Bill's sexual harrassment victims, and the Iraq War/ISIS.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 07:22:37 PM »

Hillary for sure.

Many people will hold their nose and vote for her because she's not "crazy".
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