Opinion of Oldiesfreak1854

[afleitch]

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

Well, I have quite a dislike and disdain for the South because of my emphasis on equality, which is why I consider myself the conservative equivalent of a Yankee Republican.

Equality for whom?

[Mechaman]

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

Well, I have quite a dislike and disdain for the South because of my emphasis on equality, which is why I consider myself the conservative equivalent of a Yankee Republican.

No, you just seem to be some sort of ironic bigot, thus defeating your intent.  You can't dislike an entire f***ing region of the country if you are "pro-equality", dope.  Especially when just a few days ago, you were toting the whole "well the South was misunderstood and voted Republican because they started becoming more anti-racist".

[Cobbler]

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

Well, I have quite a dislike and disdain for the South because of my emphasis on equality, which is why I consider myself the conservative equivalent of a Yankee Republican.

The thing is, the whole Rockefeller Republican term is an ideological one (moderate/liberal Republicans), not so much of a regional one. (It used to be regional because the moderate Republicans were in the Northeast.) It is conceivable that there could be a "Rockefeller Republican" from the South.

There are a lot of good people in the South, just like there are bad people in other parts of the country too. Writing them off in the name of "equality" is ridiculous.

[Joe Republic]

Obviously not too bright.

[CountryRoads]

Can I change my vote? I say neutral now. Some of the things you believe Oldies, are just plain dumb, I'm sorry.

You're a nice guy, but you are a Republican for very weird reasons.

[bgwah]

Fake poster or an 11 year old. Not sure which.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

FF.

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

I've been here almost 9 and I haven't got one : D

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

His Southern Strategy revisionist stuff forces the HP hand... but he's probably no monster

[Oldiesfreak1854]

His Southern Strategy revisionist stuff forces the HP hand... but he's probably no monster

You're the ones accepting revisionist stuff about the Southern strategy.  It would have made no sense for the GOP to pander to racists in 1968 because they were already supporng Wallace.  It would be like a Republican presidential candidate campaigning in California or Massachusetts or a Democratic presidential candidate campaigning in Texas or Utah today.  Since the bigots were safely in the Wallace column, it would have been a waste of time politically for Republicans to pursue that type of campaign.

Can I change my vote? I say neutral now. Some of the things you believe Oldies, are just plain dumb, I'm sorry.

You're a nice guy, but you are a Republican for very weird reasons.

That's not the only reason I'm a Republican.  I have plenty of other reasons why.  After all, Democrats have gone from being the party of slavery and Jim Crow to the party of drive-thru abortion clinics and suffocating taxes on businesses (the latter in the name of "fairness").  Republicans are a better ideological fit for me, and my loyaly to President Bush when he was in office (having largely come of age during his presidency) is part of it too.

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

Well, I have quite a dislike and disdain for the South because of my emphasis on equality, which is why I consider myself the conservative equivalent of a Yankee Republican.

No, you just seem to be some sort of ironic bigot, thus defeating your intent.  You can't dislike an entire f***ing region of the country if you are "pro-equality", dope.  Especially when just a few days ago, you were toting the whole "well the South was misunderstood and voted Republican because they started becoming more anti-racist".

I didn't say the South became Republican because they became more anti-racist, although the South is almost certainly more Republican and anti-racist than it used to be.  I mean that there were enouh anti-racist Southerners at that time (mostly from in-migration) to help Republicans make inroads.  How do you explain the success of integrationist Southern Republicans like Winthrop Rockefeller or Howard Baker, aside from that, economic issues" and anti-communism?  And how do you explain that the South didn't become solidly Republcan in national elections until the 80s, which coincided with the shift toward the GOP among religious conservatives, which make up a large population in the South?

As for being an "ironic bigot", politics is all about perception, and when the GOP is strong in the South, it makes them look racist.

[Mechaman]

Yes Oldie, I get your argument.

And I can say, based off of what you said, I still stand by my original conclusion that you are indeed an "ironic bigot".  In fact, your latest reply only further reinforced my opinion, based on your flawed premise and logic.  No amount of "well I'm a Republican and they abolished slavery AND CIVIL RIGHTS URRRR!" will change that fact.

Unless you gain self-awareness, which I doubt.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Here's a new pearl of wisdom:

OK, OK, he said "very unlikely"...

[Kitteh]

Here's a new pearl of wisdom:

OK, OK, he said "very unlikely"...

His "most likely scenario" map was pretty bad too.

[Talleyrand]

The likeliest scenario at this point in time:

This is a map based in fantasy, not reality.

The only state where you match the consensus is Alaska, yet somehow you think Oregon, Colorado, New Hampshire, and Minnesota are favored for GOP wins, while West Virginia and  South Dakota are favored D holds? Plus Hagan is probably favored in NC.

Yeah, there's his most likely map. I actually think Oldiesfreak is a really nice guy, but he's too partisan and has an odd hatred of the South (plus his constant desire to be viewed as a "Conservative Yankee Republican") which has warped off some of his rationality.

I voted FF.

[Donerail]

Here's a new pearl of wisdom:

OK, OK, he said "very unlikely"...

His "most likely scenario" map was pretty bad too.

And the reason the Republicans don't pick up Arkansas is because we need Democrats with Southern accents in the Senate to make sure the true racism of the Democrats is revealed.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

LOL@that likeliest scenario. He might at least want to explain who is going to beat Franken, Udall or Merkley, the Republicans don't have any promising candidates.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

LOL@that likeliest scenario. He might at least want to explain who is going to beat Franken, Udall or Merkley, the Republicans don't have any promising candidates.

There may not be any strong candidates yet, but don't count the GOP out in recruiting them.  And FTR, the most likely candidate to beat Mark Udall in Colorado is Jane Norton.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Oldiesfreak1854 is a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

[Brittain33]

Starting to think he's a sock.

Me too. The Franken thread is a bit de trop.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Wouldn't surprise me.  Maybe jmfcst?  Or Kyle Mercado, troll?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Oldiesfreak1854 is a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

I actually found this quite funny.  Thanks!

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

I doubt he's a sock, guys.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Oldiesfreak1854 is a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

I actually found this quite funny.  Thanks!

I hoped you'll appreciate historical reference.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Oldiesfreak1854 is a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

I actually found this quite funny.  Thanks!

I hoped you'll appreciate historical reference.

Yes, I do.