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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2012, 01:56:50 PM »
« edited: October 08, 2012, 02:04:15 PM by ModerateCoward »

This is the current map. Although Obama is leading by more in OH than VA right now, proper racist campaign will not flip Virginia, because a large part of the whites there live in suburban DC and are not likely to be swayed by such a campaign, but same cannot be said for Ohio or Wisconsin whites. Obama wins if he can hold WI or OH, Romney wins if he can run a proper campaign based on racism and put all the toss-up and tilt states into his column.

I think Opebo misunderstands the Virginia whites:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-3-in-virginia.html
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2012, 02:05:17 PM »

Typical GOP hack.
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2012, 02:32:29 PM »

Mitt isn't even leading in CO after the debate, so why should we put OH in his column?

CO is more left-leaning than OH.

Polling wise it has been the most friendliest to Romney.

CO and OH have very different kinds of white voters, particularly the whites with potential to vote Democratic are very different in these two states.  Of course the states contain very different sorts of minorities (mostly black in OH, mostly Hispanic in CO) but the key is that Ohio has more 'non Hispanic whites' than Colorado, and Dem-leaning whites in Ohio include more racists. 


I think you're right, and I'm learning. 

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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2012, 03:16:45 PM »

Venezuela just reelected Chavez. This bodes well for Obama because it means it is currently trendy to reelect socialist dictators.

Do you even understand the definition of "dictator"?


The fellow does not know what the word 'socialist' means, either.

In modern usage, the term "dictator" is generally used to describe a non-royal leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits: suspension of competitive elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.

--Wikipedia (I exclude hereditary, traditional monarchs and recognize that dictators who hold elections allow those only if they get desired results).  

This could include a President (Ceausescu), Prime Minister (Mussolini), Premier, top military leader (Qaddafi), head of some supreme ruling council (Khomieni), or the boss of a monopoly political party (Stalin).  
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2012, 03:39:54 PM »

Mitt isn't even leading in CO after the debate, so why should we put OH in his column?

CO is more left-leaning than OH.
The two states are very unalike and there is no reason why they should show identical swings between two nationally similar elections. And Colorado is by far the more volatile.
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« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2012, 03:57:12 PM »

Venezuela just reelected Chavez. This bodes well for Obama because it means it is currently trendy to reelect socialist dictators.

Do you even understand the definition of "dictator"?
I think that was sarcasm on his part.
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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2012, 05:16:31 PM »

No, AmNat, he's not sitting on 270, he's sitting on 235, and Obama's only sitting on 247.  Romney's knocked back Obama's electoral advantage significantly, and has a very good chance of winning most, or even all, of those tossup states.

Actually I consider this map pretty generous to Romney at the present moment, but it is certainly more accurate than your map:



That's my map, except I have Nevada and New Hampshire as tossups.
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« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2012, 05:21:10 PM »

No, AmNat, he's not sitting on 270, he's sitting on 235, and Obama's only sitting on 247.  Romney's knocked back Obama's electoral advantage significantly, and has a very good chance of winning most, or even all, of those tossup states.

Actually I consider this map pretty generous to Romney at the present moment, but it is certainly more accurate than your map:



That's my map, except I have Nevada and New Hampshire as tossups.

Thanks for the affirmation.  You may be right about NH, though I've seen no poll that suggests it.  But NV I think is safe enough - its got few enough whites.
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« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2012, 05:24:21 PM »

But Romney can move enough Mormons from Utah to Nevada to vote for him and help him carry the state.
I think that's his secret backup plan.
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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2012, 05:54:21 PM »

Rasmussen has been biased toward Republicans for most of this year, but they have been biased toward Democrats in the past.
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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2012, 06:04:37 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2012, 06:10:00 PM by Dakota Devil »

But Romney can move enough Mormons from Utah to Nevada to vote for him and help him carry the state.
I think that's his secret backup plan.


Oh, please no.  But I wouldn't put that type of strategy past Ronmey.
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« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2012, 06:19:30 PM »

No he's at 235 like opebo said.
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« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2012, 06:24:29 PM »

191 (235 if you include toss-up/leaners)
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« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2012, 07:34:31 AM »

Agreed.
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« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2012, 12:06:51 PM »


In other words, a Romney landslide.
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