Age of Steam and Steel: Concert of Europe Part III (Sign up and Rules Thread)

[windjammer]

Let me present you my new character : Grandmother Queen regent Marie Ferdinanda. She has vowed to not die until all his Grace's enemies are dead and evil has been driven from the realm.

[windjammer]

Let me present you my new character : Grandmother Queen regent Marie Ferdinanda. She has vowed to not die until all his Grace's enemies are dead and evil has been driven from the realm.

Who would have thought there could be two grandmother regencies at the same time.

Actually, there are THREE grandmother regencies. Remember Joseon?

[windjammer]

Midturn moves posted

[windjammer]

I’m sorry, but I really think I’m gonna need tomorrow.  Can the midturn please be extended until then?  I can explain more via PM if need be although it’s kinda private tbh.

I'm sorry for hearing about that. I hope you're being fine IRL.

[windjammer]

And regarding update, perhaps it could be about some stuff happening in Europe while leaving X world alone so he could make the moves at the end of the turn even if he misses the midturn?

[windjammer]

I don't want to be the person to say that but. We have way too many NPC players and everyone is busy. Maybe this turn should be the last turn with an epilogue?

I'm honestly busy at hell as well.

[windjammer]

Honestly I just hope the game will soon end. China, Japan, UK, Russia are gone.

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I think the Great Eastern War makes it hard to end the game either way right now. Either side could win.

The great Eastern war is going to last for 4 additional turns. The game would have already ceased to play since then.

In the first game, we stopped the game while a major war still happening. In the second, a UK vs Quebec war happened etc

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While I agree we are clearly in the later stages of the game (probably 2-3 more turns if things are allowed to run naturally), I do not think it's fair or proper to cease it until the Great Eastern War and the semi-related conflicts are brought to a suitable conclusion, especially given half of the remaining player base are combatants. This is a fight on a scale not seen since the first game. Although there was an Austro-Prussian war at the end of the previous game, the circumstances were a bit different. For players who have invested a good deal of time and strategy in Eastern Europe, to pick up and quit really wouldn't be fair. Now, if we lose one of them, that's a different story...

I'm not forcing anyone to keep playing. If you feel you cannot continue due to time constraints, I totally understand and it's not problem. That's just a natural part of life.

Yes, having so many NPCs is probably not ideal, but it is what it is. I am *very* hesitant to suspend play until more people join, because that would in all likelihood just be a game over and I doubt it would be resumed.

If there were some way to project the Great Eastern War at a quicker pace, I would not necessarily be opposed but I don't know quite what I'm envisioning. Maybe somehow through discord or something? I'll have to think on it.

Honestly,
I

f there were some way to project the Great Eastern War at a quicker pace, I would not necessarily be opposed but I don't know quite what I'm envisioning. Maybe somehow through discord or something? I'll have to think on it.

Maybe you ask to all the players (except those involved in the great eastern war) what are their future moves (epilogue) except for the great eastern wars players who will have to continue playing at a quicker rate. For the next "turns" you only update this war and not the rest and then the war will be concluded you make a general epilogue.

So you just have to update the great eastern war.

Let's be honest, it's the only part of the game that is still semi active and where there is still interest to play.

[windjammer]

Because personally I just want to make an epilogue for me with what I was planning to do for the next moves so I can stop playing without screwing France and so I could retake my country next season.

OOC: Spamage, regarding France, if you're fine with me sending my final moves for the rest of the game, I would send you everything for the end of this turn so France could turn NPC with what I wrote to you and I could peacefully retake France next season.

[windjammer]

While I agree we are clearly in the later stages of the game (probably 2-3 more turns if things are allowed to run naturally), I do not think it's fair or proper to cease it until the Great Eastern War and the semi-related conflicts are brought to a suitable conclusion, especially given half of the remaining player base are combatants. This is a fight on a scale not seen since the first game. Although there was an Austro-Prussian war at the end of the previous game, the circumstances were a bit different. For players who have invested a good deal of time and strategy in Eastern Europe, to pick up and quit really wouldn't be fair. Now, if we lose one of them, that's a different story...

I'm not forcing anyone to keep playing. If you feel you cannot continue due to time constraints, I totally understand and it's not problem. That's just a natural part of life.

Yes, having so many NPCs is probably not ideal, but it is what it is. I am *very* hesitant to suspend play until more people join, because that would in all likelihood just be a game over and I doubt it would be resumed.

If there were some way to project the Great Eastern War at a quicker pace, I would not necessarily be opposed but I don't know quite what I'm envisioning. Maybe somehow through discord or something? I'll have to think on it.

Honestly,
I

f there were some way to project the Great Eastern War at a quicker pace, I would not necessarily be opposed but I don't know quite what I'm envisioning. Maybe somehow through discord or something? I'll have to think on it.

Maybe you ask to all the players (except those involved in the great eastern war) what are their future moves (epilogue) except for the great eastern wars players who will have to continue playing at a quicker rate. For the next "turns" you only update this war and not the rest and then the war will be concluded you make a general epilogue.

So you just have to update the great eastern war.

Let's be honest, it's the only part of the game that is still semi active and where there is still interest to play.

I’d be strongly opposed to this.  Either the whole game ends at once and gets an epilogue or the whole game should keep going.  You can always drop out for RL reasons.  It’s not like France is in danger of being invaded or something

I still have interest in playing right now.

I'm not worried about "my realm". I just want this game to end well.

[windjammer]

Anyway,
As two players are being back. The number of NPCs is less a problem. So I'm changing my mind

[windjammer]

Orders sent

[windjammer]

I'm truly wondering what is going to happen to the argentinian general

[windjammer]

Well I get now why Iran wasn’t exactly known for its maritime history. Guess conducting evasion tactics in a gulf aint exactly doable.

I must say, the Ottomans are only standing thanks to their foreign connections to bail them out, moreso than I. Kingpolen is lucky that he has an entire canal to bargain with.

You have switched sides so many times that there is as well a problem of trust.

[windjammer]

Thank you for everything Lumine.

Is an epilogue possible?

[windjammer]

I just sent my final orders.
Such a great pleasure to play it with you all. I hope we will meet again next year

[windjammer]

I'm 6k words into the epilogue and there's no end in sight. I may have to postpone it until Sunday...

Oh my, this seems to be a bloodfest of epic proportions.

Of course, if a huge part of it has to do less with war and more of changing economic and political situations that’s cool.

Depending upon how far ahead the epilogue looks, it easily might have to deal with the European Potato Failure of the mid-1840's if Spamage includes historical natural disasters.  While historically, it hurt Ireland the most, all of Northern Europe was affected and it was a major contributor to the Revolutions of 1848.

Honestly I believe it is only going to be worse for Eastern Europe as famine is already widespread

[windjammer]

See you all next year!

[windjammer]

It is finished, phew

Hope everyone likes reading, there's lots to do

Thanks for a great game!

I planned entries for Poland, Britain, and Japan but really don't have any more energy to devote to that.

In short, a Catholic Republican regime was established in Poland, the realm collapsed into civil war within a couple of years with the onset of famine and opposition from the numerous other combinations of ethnicity and religions. The state was doomed by a lack of access to the sea. Eventually, after 6 or 7 years of fighting a younger Wettin is named as a compromise King, bound by a constitution and with ample autonomy given to the numerous minorities in the Kingdom of Poland.

What happened to Naples btw?

[windjammer]

Honestly,
If next season we start in 1890, I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of war happened in Europe and in other parts of the world before we can play again.

[windjammer]

Honestly,
If next season we start in 1890, I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of war happened in Europe and in other parts of the world before we can play again.

I will go further. I think everything will depend on Charlotte, whether she ends up having a son or not. If she doesn't have a son, Louis XIX will die and will be replaced by the pacifist Xavier: NO WAR.

If she ends up having a son, Louis XIX will die and she will act as her regent. And an european war is definitely going to happen.

[windjammer]

While the time period was apparently previously covered by Balance of Power II, the circumstances are considerably different, so I think the 1860s rather than 1890s are likely to be the time period of the next game, especially given Spamage has already started to take the steps to be prepared for a start date of 1860 in the next game.

We stopped last game in 1790 to then restart it in 1835. Honestly for roleplay stuff I think it is better to restart in 1880-1890 but obviously this is Spamage's choice.