Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread

[windjammer]

But yeah,
Ypestis is the new spamage, he constantly switches sides .

[windjammer]

Anyone thought about contacting HBO in order to make this game a serie?

[windjammer]

I have to drop out for cognitive rest due to a mild concussion. Probable full LOA until Saturday for the whole site.

I'm sorry for hearing that, I wish you a speedy recovery.

[windjammer]

For the record I'll be waiting for the next turn to open to post my public reactions.

Well, I honestly can't wait for that lol

[windjammer]

Maybe it's time to make some awards ceremonies?

[windjammer]

The best player:
The best diplomat:
The best war leader:
The best schemer:


The most scheming:
The most aggressive:
The craziest:
The most high energy player
The weirdest:
The most unpredictable:


The one who betrays the most:
The one who marked this game the most:


Let's go! Please don't nominate yourself and Spamage you can participate too!

[windjammer]

The best player: Dereich with Lumine being close second
The best diplomat: Lumine
The best war leader: Dereich
The best schemer: Lumine

The most scheming: MALCOLM X
The most aggressive: DKrolga

The craziest: Henry Wallace
The most high energy player: Henry Wallace
The weirdest: Kingpoleon
The most unpredictable: Henry Wallace


The one who betrays the most: YPESTIS
The one who marked this game the most: MALCOLM X!!!

[windjammer]

Alright,
That means I won't get my step father on the Polish throne, at least for now

[windjammer]

Spamage I'm curious, as French revolutionaries wanted to expand until they met their natural borders: Rhein,... What are the natural borders for Poland?

[windjammer]

Alright:
-Vienna
-Moscow
-Saint Petesburg
-Kiev
-Copenhague

Quite a lot of big cities that have been taken!

[windjammer]

Spamage,
I don't have the time and energy to start thinking about making military moves etc etc because I'm busy IRL and it is literally fewer than 1 day from the deadline. And I'm really overworked.

As I don't want to slow the game, I will take this decision next turn about whether to join the war or not. I will just ask you not to put any penalties (if there are any) on me about me waiting because simply put like that: joining a war and the military moves that go with that are a tough decision AND I CAN'T TAKE THIS TOUGH DECISION IN A RUSH.

Thanks for your understanding

[windjammer]

I am greatly annoyed by the fact that many war start lately in the turn. Even if I hadn't sent my orders yet, I still wrote most of them and I am going to send them to Spamage today. I wrote them by not knowing a full war was going to happen, something I didn't expect.

Simply put forward, I simply don't have the time to prepare for military moves in a such big war that is happening in the case I would decide to join.

So, I will send my Spamage like if if I didn't know that a war happened. And I will take the decision to join or not next turn. Rush rush rush aren't good conditions to play, and I refuse to play in such conditions. And I request no penalties for that.

 

[windjammer]

I am greatly annoyed by the fact that many war start lately in the turn. Even if I hadn't sent my orders yet, I still wrote most of them and I am going to send them to Spamage today. I wrote them by not knowing a full war was going to happen, something I didn't expect.

Simply put forward, I simply don't have the time to prepare for military moves in a such big war that is happening in the case I would decide to join.

So, I will send my Spamage like if if I didn't know that a war happened. And I will take the decision to join or not next turn. Rush rush rush aren't good conditions to play, and I refuse to play in such conditions. And I request no penalties for that.

 

Err...the thing is that you do know there’s a war though.  It’d be kinda unrealistic not to penalize you for just failing to react at all, no?  I mean, not to stick my head where it doesn’t belong or anything, but why not just make your decision public this turn and request a day long extension from Spamage.  That seems like the logical course of action if it really is just a question of time (not sure why that’d keep you from picking sides, but that’s just me). 

Because I can't in one day decide whether I should join the war or not and that the last time I asked for an extension it was a so big outrage for some outrage.

I dont want to get penalized because players always start their war lately, it's their fault, not mine.

[windjammer]

I am greatly annoyed by the fact that many war start lately in the turn. Even if I hadn't sent my orders yet, I still wrote most of them and I am going to send them to Spamage today. I wrote them by not knowing a full war was going to happen, something I didn't expect.

Simply put forward, I simply don't have the time to prepare for military moves in a such big war that is happening in the case I would decide to join.

So, I will send my Spamage like if if I didn't know that a war happened. And I will take the decision to join or not next turn. Rush rush rush aren't good conditions to play, and I refuse to play in such conditions. And I request no penalties for that.

 

Err...the thing is that you do know there’s a war though.  It’d be kinda unrealistic not to penalize you for just failing to react at all, no?  I mean, not to stick my head where it doesn’t belong or anything, but why not just make your decision public this turn and request a day long extension from Spamage.  That seems like the logical course of action if it really is just a question of time (not sure why that’d keep you from picking sides, but that’s just me). 

Because I can't in one day decide whether I should join the war or not and that the last time I asked for an extension it was a so big outrage for some outrage.

I dont want to get penalized because players always start their war lately, it's their fault, not mine.

I doubt anyone would throw a fit if you asked for a one day extension and I’m sure Spamage would grant it.  Maybe I just make decisions quickly, but one extra day seems like plenty of time to make such a decision.

Well, I once asked a two days extension and it was a drama lol

[windjammer]

There might be a poster that might join the game soon if a realm is available (Finland?)!!!

[windjammer]

I'm not sure Finland is a good idea; they're more a cobbled together coalition of peasants, Danish mercenaries, and French mercenaries than a functioning country. Plus, they are at war with both Sweden and Russia, neither of which has much incentive to let them live once they're able to deal with them.

Indeed that wouldn't be easy but they are searching a king after all.

[windjammer]

I'm not sure Finland is a good idea; they're more a cobbled together coalition of peasants, Danish mercenaries, and French mercenaries than a functioning country. Plus, they are at war with both Sweden and Russia, neither of which has much incentive to let them live once they're able to deal with them.

Indeed that wouldn't be easy but they are searching a king after all.

They can call their rebel leader a king all they want, it won't keep Russia or Sweden from wiping them off the face of the earth, an outcome which still seems highly likely.

I would think the best available states would be Poland (if allowed, though I assume it isn't), the Papal State, the Netherlands (yet again), or maybe Bavaria. None of those (I think) are at risk of imminent destruction and are well-placed to interact with the rest of Europe.

Highly likely?
It seems to me that both Sweden and Russia have many problems, Sweden notably with their rebels in Sweden. So I highly doubt they have the ability nos to destroy Finland

[windjammer]

I'm not sure Finland is a good idea; they're more a cobbled together coalition of peasants, Danish mercenaries, and French mercenaries than a functioning country. Plus, they are at war with both Sweden and Russia, neither of which has much incentive to let them live once they're able to deal with them.

Indeed that wouldn't be easy but they are searching a king after all.

They can call their rebel leader a king all they want, it won't keep Russia or Sweden from wiping them off the face of the earth, an outcome which still seems highly likely.

I would think the best available states would be Poland (if allowed, though I assume it isn't), the Papal State, the Netherlands (yet again), or maybe Bavaria. None of those (I think) are at risk of imminent destruction and are well-placed to interact with the rest of Europe.

Highly likely?
It seems to me that both Sweden and Russia have many problems, Sweden notably with their rebels in Sweden. So I highly doubt they have the ability nos to destroy Finland

And? Assume the rebels win; the NEW Swedish government isn't likely to be any more keen on Finnish independence than the current one is! Finland seems particularly poorly placed to survive without some kind of great power sponsor since its a small, poorly defended region surrounded by two large and aggressive states with some claim on Finnish land. That's DOUBLY true with Sweden and Russia currently allied together. Unless you're predicting the total demise of one or both of Sweden and Russia within a few turns, Finland seems like it'll survive on borrowed time and is not a great candidate for a new player.

Well,
I doubt that a game over for Ypestis or Wallace can be totally excluded with the kazakhs and the rébellion in Sweden

[windjammer]

Spamage, Windjammer and I just sent you a PM about my situation in Sardinia Piedmont. I wanted to tax only the nobility and spare the clergy.

Isn't that what the event says?

Not really as the second estates= the nobles.

[windjammer]

Rah these pamphlets, it's always obvious who does that

[windjammer]

Spamage, is there any chance of me joining back in as Denmark?

Good to see you back, Kingpoleon!

(and sorry to interject, but since Denmark has taken such losses perhaps it would make more sense if you returned as a larger nation like the Papal States or Rev. Poland?)

The Pope shouldn't be playable.

[windjammer]

Kingpoleon:

-Bavaria is a Dereich ally
-The Durranis are located in India and are fighting against me.


Just to give you more details

[windjammer]

It's always refreshing to see how complaints from players can be so easily ignored with such a fashion. I can't say I'm surprised though as 2 players already threatened to leave.

[windjammer]

This is not about excluding X, in fact I'm happy he's back. This is about *anyone* playing the Pope. The Pope has too many powers, and if he screws up it could have many consequences for many players.
Religious players shouldn't be playable.

[windjammer]

Anyway,
I considered that a bad idea when he was first appointed Pope, and I still consider that a very bad idea about him being appointed Pope a second time. Not because of *HIM* because he's indeed a talented and high energy player, and I would be more than happy to have him back. But the Pope? It could have *many* *many* consequences, just imagine if it triggers a schism etc etc. Not intentionnally etc etc, but mistakes happen. We all have made mistakes that have had big consequences, I really fear that smething tragic happening with the Pope's character would be catastrophic for the game.

Anyway, I'm not going to be a drama queen, let's move on. I won't obstruct the game of that. Let's continue to play.

My apologies if I have offended anyone.