Funeral for the Democratic Party of Virginia

[Non Swing Voter]

As we prepare for the inevitable Gov. Glenn Youngkin, share memories of Democratic Party achievements in the state before they are repealed in one fell swoop.

Thanks for nothing, Jayapal

Just preserving this post so it cannot be deleted after Nov. 2.

[Non Swing Voter]

As we prepare for the inevitable Gov. Glenn Youngkin, share memories of Democratic Party achievements in the state before they are repealed in one fell swoop.

Thanks for nothing, Jayapal

Just preserving this post so it cannot be deleted after Nov. 2.

I'll make u a bet.

If McAuliffe wins I will slither away from Atlas back to my hole until 2023.

If Youngkin wins you stay off Atlas until 2022.

Deal?

OK.  Preserving this one too.

[Non Swing Voter]

As we prepare for the inevitable Gov. Glenn Youngkin, share memories of Democratic Party achievements in the state before they are repealed in one fell swoop.

Thanks for nothing, Jayapal

Just preserving this post so it cannot be deleted after Nov. 2.

I'll make u a bet.

If McAuliffe wins I will slither away from Atlas back to my hole until 2023.

If Youngkin wins you stay off Atlas until 2022.

Deal?

OK.  Preserving this one too.

Sweet.

I wont say which Atlasian has shown me a nonpublic Dem internal poll matching the Fox News poll. But i have seen one.

how about we sweeten the bet?  I'll stay off 3 years if MT Treasurer and THG stay off for 2 years.  I think one "retired" a month ago anyways.

[Non Swing Voter]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

Yeah, ur really on the pulse of what Virginia voters care about.

LMAO

[Non Swing Voter]

Even if Youngkin wins, it would be a dead-cat bounce because he would not have a trifecta and he would likely be gone in 2025.

Yes, Youngkin can't run for re-election because Virginia has a law preventing anyone from running for re-election. But he'll have a trifecta after the 2023 senate elections and if Democrats hold the Presidency in 2024 the GOP almost certainly holds the Virginia Governorship in 2025 with some similar R

LOL.

Have you ever been to Virginia?

[Non Swing Voter]

If Youngkin wins this isn't the "funeral for Virginia Democrats" and it certainly won't be because of Jayapal of all people. This race has somehow brought about the most unreadable garbage this forum has ever seen.  

[Non Swing Voter]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

I wish. I'd definitely pay NOVA to GTFO.

Where would the rest of VA get their tax redistribution handouts from then?

[Non Swing Voter]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

Fairfax and Arlington are two different jurisdictions?  Who knew.

[Non Swing Voter]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

On the flip side, Dems look as incompetent as ever right now.  This is literally a low point for the party over the last several years.  They are failing and flailing... so if T-Mac wins by a decent margin despite these last minute headwinds, it shows that they can definitely pull things together. 

[Non Swing Voter]

You heard it here first: Youngkin wins Prince William county

Another gem...

[Non Swing Voter]

I really hate this website sometimes...

just sometimes?

[Non Swing Voter]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

He's running a Gillespie 2.0 campaign.  Yes it's 100% based on racism, xenophobia, homophobia, poor rural white people who are mad at the UMC, etc. etc.  A campaign of rage.  Essentially the Trump/MS-13 playbook of 2017 with new racist/homophobic issues inserted.  But he's also trying to pretend he's a moderate who will cut your taxes.  He's going to "cut taxes" and also "increase spending for law enforcement."  He's going to "unite all Virginians" while running a campaign dividing them on CRT.  He's trying to get out his army of deplorable while appealing to NOVA moderates.  It won't work.  He's acting like the state is full of low income, low information resentful voters from Montana not like he's running in a diverse state that doesn't want this level of divisiveness. 

[Non Swing Voter]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

He's running a Gillespie 2.0 campaign.  Yes it's 100% based on racism, xenophobia, homophobia, poor rural white people who are mad at the UMC, etc. etc.  A campaign of rage.  Essentially the Trump/MS-13 playbook of 2017 with new racist/homophobic issues inserted.  But he's also trying to pretend he's a moderate who will cut your taxes.  He's going to "cut taxes" and also "increase spending for law enforcement."  He's going to "unite all Virginians" while running a campaign dividing them on CRT.  He's trying to get out his army of deplorable while appealing to NOVA moderates.  It won't work.  He's acting like the state is full of low income, low information resentful voters from Montana not like he's running in a diverse state that doesn't want this level of divisiveness. 

I very much hope your correct.

About it backfiring... for sure.  Now I can't promise the margin will be identical to 2017 because Youngkin has pumped a lot more money than even I thought he would.  I think he just loaned himself several million more.  He's flooded the TV stations but I really wonder if he has a turnout operation with that money.  Also, obviously Biden has very low approvals.  But I think this backfires the same way it did in 2017.  Youngkin's not going to get great numbers out of VA and the intensity might just drive up turnout, which he can't have. 

For Youngkin to win he needs to win most swing voters + NOVA/Richmond need low turnout + he needs to win the VA Beach area + he needs massive turnout in SWVA.

We know from early voting that NOVA/Richmond are not going to have low turnout.  So he needs the other 3 elements to fall in place and one of them needs to deliver BIG.  Like he needs utterly astonishing turnout in rural VA or he needs not just a win but a solid win in the VA Beach area. 

[Non Swing Voter]

They have been looking very vulnerable recently. They messed up with redistricting, they lost tons of winnable state senate races in 19', and now their top sleazebag, Terrance, is struggling, along with the HoD.

I guess that's what happens when local Republicans actually run a competent campaign.

Yep, they lost so many winnable senate races in 2019 that they ended up flipping the chamber

They picked up two in high D-leaning districts, there were half of dozen winnable races that they blew, giving them only a 21-19 majority.

A lot of those losses were razor thin margins.

[Non Swing Voter]

They have been looking very vulnerable recently. They messed up with redistricting, they lost tons of winnable state senate races in 19', and now their top sleazebag, Terrance, is struggling, along with the HoD.

I guess that's what happens when local Republicans actually run a competent campaign.

Yep, they lost so many winnable senate races in 2019 that they ended up flipping the chamber

They picked up two in high D-leaning districts, there were half of dozen winnable races that they blew, giving them only a 21-19 majority.

A lot of those losses were razor thin margins.

I know. Literally every race that went under 5% or razor thin broke for Republicans, that's not normal. The only semi-competitive race VA Dems won was against Higgins in Northern Virginia. If I remember correctly they won it by eight points, the same margin Clinton won it by in 16'.

What can I tell you, gerrymandering works.

[Non Swing Voter]

Tell me, how well did Dems expand in Kentucky after Bevin washed out?