Funeral for the Democratic Party of Virginia

[neostassenite31]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

[Mr. Reactionary]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

I wish. I'd definitely pay NOVA to GTFO.

[Non Swing Voter]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

I wish. I'd definitely pay NOVA to GTFO.

Where would the rest of VA get their tax redistribution handouts from then?

[Non Swing Voter]

Soon there will be takes that Dems in Fairfax and Arlington should attempt to secede and join Maryland or form a new state with DC because VA is now safe R like WV. Completely predictable

Fairfax and Arlington are two different jurisdictions?  Who knew.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lol, it's not over and neither are Ds in the House in 2022/ Covid is gonna be crushed just like Hakeem Jeffries said whom is in line to be Speaker next yr

PBOWER2A is right eventhough he doesn't respond much, that D's are the better party since Rs have won only the H NPVi since 1992/ and D's  are dead even in the Senate NPVI and Prez PVI

If we lose VAGov it means nothing for 2024/Kaine is gonna easily win reelection

[Yoda]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

[compucomp]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

[Non Swing Voter]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

On the flip side, Dems look as incompetent as ever right now.  This is literally a low point for the party over the last several years.  They are failing and flailing... so if T-Mac wins by a decent margin despite these last minute headwinds, it shows that they can definitely pull things together. 

[Yoda]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

If that were true, their play would not have worked and the BIF would have been passed already. As it stands, they got President Biden to all but declare himself on their side and not Manchin/Sienma's side, and it now looks like a $1.75 trillion BBB bill will pass along with BIF, whereas Manchin and Sinema were demanding BIF pass on it's own and they would pinky swear to pass the reconciliation bill later. Trust us, they promised. Again, Jayapal was smart to not go along with this Lucy and the football act. Sinema's approval #'s are in the tank, she's weakened and the Progressive Caucus will feel emboldened going forward. Whatever your persoanl politics are, no one can claim with a straight face that Sinema played this well at all. She is a one termer.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

[Utah Neolib]

You don’t realize how polarized the country is. This will age like milk.

[compucomp]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

If that were true, their play would not have worked and the BIF would have been passed already. As it stands, they got President Biden to all but declare himself on their side and not Manchin/Sienma's side, and it now looks like a $1.75 trillion BBB bill will pass along with BIF, whereas Manchin and Sinema were demanding BIF pass on it's own and they would pinky swear to pass the reconciliation bill later. Trust us, they promised. Again, Jayapal was smart to not go along with this Lucy and the football act. Sinema's approval #'s are in the tank, she's weakened and the Progressive Caucus will feel emboldened going forward. Whatever your persoanl politics are, no one can claim with a straight face that Sinema played this well at all. She is a one termer.

Sure, you can believe this if it makes you feel better. But the BBB deal is almost to the letter what Manchin and Sinema dictated they were willing to accept. Clean energy program, gone. Trump tax law rollback, gone. Paid leave, gone. Medicare drug price reform, gone. Clearly they recognized that they were the 49th and 50th votes on this legislation and they made their influence count to the maximum.

Grandstanding is a way of life on Capitol Hill but this time the progressives' grandstanding will have real electoral consequences. I suspect soon after next Tuesday, assuming T-Mac loses, he will send out leaks through his allies or the Clintons' allies blaming the progressives directly for causing him to lose.

[Yoda]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and McAuliffe would have been saved as a result

This is simply uninformed. She's not opposed to the BIF. She's not going to vote to pass it until Manchin and Sinema also commit to passing the reconciliation bill and pass it in the Senate. At that point she and the rest of the Dem House would pass both bills. This is smart of her and the progressive caucus, as it gives them leverage. If you were unaware, Manchin and Sinema have made it clear that they cannot be trusted; their word is garbage. Jayapal was/is entirely correct to hold out on allowing a vote on the BIF until Manchin and Sinema drop their bs.

She and Sanders just want to save face since the BBB Deal shows they actually have zero leverage while Manchin and Sinema have all of it, so they're just grandstanding now. Too bad their grandstanding is about to gift-wrap Youngkin the governorship and possibly torch the VA Democratic Party in the process.

Maybe if Youngkin actually wins by 8 and the election is called quickly next Tuesday night, then the progressives will be scared straight and pass the BIF the next morning? At least some good will have come from the humiliation in that case.

If that were true, their play would not have worked and the BIF would have been passed already. As it stands, they got President Biden to all but declare himself on their side and not Manchin/Sienma's side, and it now looks like a $1.75 trillion BBB bill will pass along with BIF, whereas Manchin and Sinema were demanding BIF pass on it's own and they would pinky swear to pass the reconciliation bill later. Trust us, they promised. Again, Jayapal was smart to not go along with this Lucy and the football act. Sinema's approval #'s are in the tank, she's weakened and the Progressive Caucus will feel emboldened going forward. Whatever your persoanl politics are, no one can claim with a straight face that Sinema played this well at all. She is a one termer.

Sure, you can believe this if it makes you feel better. But the BBB deal is almost to the letter what Manchin and Sinema dictated they were willing to accept. Clean energy program, gone. Trump tax law rollback, gone. Paid leave, gone. Medicare drug price reform, gone. Clearly they recognized that they were the 49th and 50th votes on this legislation and they made their influence count to the maximum.

Grandstanding is a way of life on Capitol Hill but this time the progressives' grandstanding will have real electoral consequences. I suspect soon after next Tuesday, assuming T-Mac loses, he will send out leaks through his allies or the Clintons' allies blaming the progressives directly for causing him to lose.

Yes, they did recognize that, and in '24, they will both lose for having made the bill worse (well, Manchin will lose for many more reasons). Brilliant political strategery. Sanders and Jayapal will both still be there. Ever heard of a Pyrrhic victory? This is a good example.

You are in desperate need of a political education if you think the progressives are the ones to blame for the dems' current outlook in Virginia. This is healthcare reform all over again. Who gave us that mess that resulted in the bloodbath of 2010? The "moderate" Heroes like Ben Nelson and Max Baucus who ruled out true reform from the very beginning and nuked the public option, among many other things. Manchin and Sinema have succeeded brilliantly at making the bill much, much worse and therefore will succeed in suppressing base dem turnout in VA and the midterms next year. Like you said....prescription drug reform? Dead. Paid leave? Dead. Increased taxes on the rich and corporations? Dead

But sure, you can keep blaming VA on progressives if it makes you feel better.

[Woody]

They have been looking very vulnerable recently. They messed up with redistricting, they lost tons of winnable state senate races in 19', and now their top sleazebag, Terrance, is struggling, along with the HoD.

I guess that's what happens when local Republicans actually run a competent campaign.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Professional gaslighters like you are the reason Democrats are struggling.

[wbrocks67]

It's not Jayapal's fault. The blame is probably on that trans teen rapist more than anything as well as the McAuliffe campaign for its lack of a focused message.

Again, how is this in any way a problem for Terry McAuliffe and not Glenn Youngkin? What do either of them have to do with this?

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Funeral Background Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkBLnEqmkqU

[LiberalDem19]

They have been looking very vulnerable recently. They messed up with redistricting, they lost tons of winnable state senate races in 19', and now their top sleazebag, Terrance, is struggling, along with the HoD.

I guess that's what happens when local Republicans actually run a competent campaign.

Yep, they lost so many winnable senate races in 2019 that they ended up flipping the chamber

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Perhaps the most absurd part of this is blaming Jayapal of all people…

If she had dropped her opposition to BIF that vote would have occurred and passed tonight and Sinema and Manchin would have killed reconciliation Mondayand the Virginia gubernatorial election would not have changed regardless.

[Non Swing Voter]

You heard it here first: Youngkin wins Prince William county

Another gem...

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I really hate this website sometimes...

[Non Swing Voter]

I really hate this website sometimes...

just sometimes?

[Non Swing Voter]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

He's running a Gillespie 2.0 campaign.  Yes it's 100% based on racism, xenophobia, homophobia, poor rural white people who are mad at the UMC, etc. etc.  A campaign of rage.  Essentially the Trump/MS-13 playbook of 2017 with new racist/homophobic issues inserted.  But he's also trying to pretend he's a moderate who will cut your taxes.  He's going to "cut taxes" and also "increase spending for law enforcement."  He's going to "unite all Virginians" while running a campaign dividing them on CRT.  He's trying to get out his army of deplorable while appealing to NOVA moderates.  It won't work.  He's acting like the state is full of low income, low information resentful voters from Montana not like he's running in a diverse state that doesn't want this level of divisiveness. 

[fhtagn]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

He's running a Gillespie 2.0 campaign.  Yes it's 100% based on racism, xenophobia, homophobia, poor rural white people who are mad at the UMC, etc. etc.  A campaign of rage.  Essentially the Trump/MS-13 playbook of 2017 with new racist/homophobic issues inserted.  But he's also trying to pretend he's a moderate who will cut your taxes.  He's going to "cut taxes" and also "increase spending for law enforcement."  He's going to "unite all Virginians" while running a campaign dividing them on CRT.  He's trying to get out his army of deplorable while appealing to NOVA moderates.  It won't work.  He's acting like the state is full of low income, low information resentful voters from Montana not like he's running in a diverse state that doesn't want this level of divisiveness. 

lmao

[Mr. Reactionary]

Isn't Youngkin running a quasi-single-issue campaign on anxieties/prejudices/whatever you want to call them related to education policy ("CRT", the Bathroom Question, etc.)? If so, and if he wins, I'll take it as confirmation of my sinking feeling that the "cultural left" has badly misjudged where the country is on this stuff and most American parents are, in the end, just not very punk rock when it comes to what they mean when they ask the question "is our children learning?".

He's running a Gillespie 2.0 campaign.  Yes it's 100% based on racism, xenophobia, homophobia, poor rural white people who are mad at the UMC, etc. etc.  A campaign of rage.  Essentially the Trump/MS-13 playbook of 2017 with new racist/homophobic issues inserted.  But he's also trying to pretend he's a moderate who will cut your taxes.  He's going to "cut taxes" and also "increase spending for law enforcement."  He's going to "unite all Virginians" while running a campaign dividing them on CRT.  He's trying to get out his army of deplorable while appealing to NOVA moderates.  It won't work.  He's acting like the state is full of low income, low information resentful voters from Montana not like he's running in a diverse state that doesn't want this level of divisiveness. 

lmao

Imagine being so deranged you actually believe that shiz.