2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Non Swing Voter]

LOL.  Really?

Under Covid, it seems most of the troops will be relaxing in the barracks, playing Xbox.

Both you and I know 99% of the military has it easy.  Unless you're deployed to a combat zone. 

Yeah it doesn't work like that. They have jobs and have to do them.

And a lot of military members have been straight up banned from going to things like gyms or the movies, even where they're open.

Unless you actually served, your opinion means nothing.

Don't mean to be rude, but just sayin'

I'm only awaiting ReapSow's response (someone who claims to be active duty.  And who absurdly claimed the Coast Guard wasn't military.  LMAO).

I will not have the validity of my service nor my integrity questioned by you again. You may reply to this, but I will never see it.

you have very nice handwriting

[Non Swing Voter]

With the certification of PA and MI on Monday (or next week), Trump can basically call it quits.

He can, but he won't. 

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically). 

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically). 

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

Yes, let's all have fun watching somebody tell people with violent tendencies to "take back the country" and undermine the democratic processes.

Lets all sit back and watch with entertainment as Republicans show they are 100% willing to overthrow the election if an avenue were to ever open up.

It's this mindset that allowed people like Hitler to come to power, just watching on the sidelines and laughing, ignoring the danger that was in front of them.

This post shows an absurd level of histrionics.  Trump is being dismissed out of Court left and right.  He has a lawyer with hair dye streaming down his face.  There is literally zero chance he will overturn this election, but if you want to raise your blood pressure over nothing go right ahead.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically).  

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

Yes, let's all have fun watching somebody tell people with violent tendencies to "take back the country" and undermine the democratic processes.

Lets all sit back and watch with entertainment as Republicans show they are 100% willing to overthrow the election if an avenue were to ever open up.

It's this mindset that allowed people like Hitler to come to power, just watching on the sidelines and laughing, ignoring the danger that was in front of them.

Indeed, if Trump continues his antics, the idea that the election was illegitimate could be gaining traction among the Republican segment of the population. Everyone on this forum thinks that's ridiculous and that Trump is clearly a flailing sore loser, but then again this forum couldn't imagine that 47% in a turbocharged turnout election would vote for Trump.

If/when Trump launches his coup, in whatever form, it would be quite dangerous if he had 30-47% of the population behind him.

Trump's base has been brainwashed by him for years now.  They don't think covid is real.  They were going to view the election as fraudulent no matter what happened other than Trump winning.  There is nothing you can do to change their minds.  People here getting all worked up aren't going to change that fact.  Nor have the people complaining even suggested they are doing anything at all other than complaining here.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically). 

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

Yes, let's all have fun watching somebody tell people with violent tendencies to "take back the country" and undermine the democratic processes.

Lets all sit back and watch with entertainment as Republicans show they are 100% willing to overthrow the election if an avenue were to ever open up.

It's this mindset that allowed people like Hitler to come to power, just watching on the sidelines and laughing, ignoring the danger that was in front of them.

This post shows an absurd level of histrionics.  Trump is being dismissed out of Court left and right.  He has a lawyer with hair dye streaming down his face.  There is literally zero chance he will overturn this election, but if you want to raise your blood pressure over nothing go right ahead.

He won’t overturn this election. But what happens in the next election? Or the one after that? What does the fact that state legislative leaders are willing to sit down and have the discussion with him at all say about the state of our democracy?

You guys seem to be confused by my posts.  I don't accept his behavior, but the bottom line is that complaining about it on a message board does nothing.  Most people know it's repugnant behavior.  But getting worked up and acting like there is some potential that he could actually steal the election is absurd.  Plus every single election there's always someone saying electors should switch their votes or this or that and it never goes anywhere. 

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically).  

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

Yes, let's all have fun watching somebody tell people with violent tendencies to "take back the country" and undermine the democratic processes.

Lets all sit back and watch with entertainment as Republicans show they are 100% willing to overthrow the election if an avenue were to ever open up.

It's this mindset that allowed people like Hitler to come to power, just watching on the sidelines and laughing, ignoring the danger that was in front of them.

Indeed, if Trump continues his antics, the idea that the election was illegitimate could be gaining traction among the Republican segment of the population. Everyone on this forum thinks that's ridiculous and that Trump is clearly a flailing sore loser, but then again this forum couldn't imagine that 47% in a turbocharged turnout election would vote for Trump.

If/when Trump launches his coup, in whatever form, it would be quite dangerous if he had 30-47% of the population behind him.

Trump's base has been brainwashed by him for years now.  They don't think covid is real.  They were going to view the election as fraudulent no matter what happened other than Trump winning.  There is nothing you can do to change their minds.  People here getting all worked up aren't going to change that fact.  Nor have the people complaining even suggested they are doing anything at all other than complaining here.

And your base is brainwashed too to believe that the blm and the destruction of our cities is acceptable. It really freaking isn't. We both know elements of the left did in fact committ violence this summer and I'll admit that elements of the right probably joined in. I am pretty far to the left on a great number of issues and voted for sanders in 2016 and 2020 but violence is never the answer. I believe Trump clearly losed to Biden but if we're going to heal this nation we have to condemn all violence be it left or right. We both must look in the mirror.

Also I believe Covid to be real. It is really sad I'll even admit that Trump burnt his own house down with his own liberterian small government inaction having to do with this virus.

There's never going to be any healing if we both can't admit that our sides have at least some wrongs on our hands. I know for a fact the left isn't peaceful and the actions taken by many leftist groups are completely unacceptable. I watched it on live streams and t.v for months.

You constantly do these false equivalencies. 

Left: Random BLM activist started a fire in some city.

Right: President of the United States enabled by the entire Republican Party apparatus commits crimes in plain view. 

Do you see the difference?

[Non Swing Voter]

complaining about it on a message board does nothing.  Most people know it's repugnant behavior.  But getting worked up and acting like there is some potential that he could actually steal the election is absurd.  Plus every single election there's always someone saying electors should switch their votes or this or that and it never goes anywhere. 

You constantly do these false equivalencies. 

Left: Random BLM activist started a fire in some city.

Right: President of the United States enabled by the entire Republican Party apparatus commits crimes in plain view. 

Do you see the difference?

Which is it? Is Trump just another random person saying electors should switch their votes, or is he committing crimes in plain view? Does saying stuff on a message board do nothing, or is it worth debating?

You're arguing two sides of the same issue here.

No, actually if you read carefully I'm not.  I despise Trump and think he should be put in jail.  But complaining about it and getting worked up on a message board does nothing.  So stop getting worked up over it.  Do YOU yourself have some kind of plan to make him stop his behavior?  No, you don't.  He will be out of office in 2 months.

[Non Swing Voter]

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A little off topic but can you change your avatar? You're the least-libertarian libertarian I have ever seen lol

how so?

[Non Swing Voter]

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A little off topic but can you change your avatar? You're the least-libertarian libertarian I have ever seen lol

how so?

I don't get that either. Some of the most anti Trump people I know are libertarians.

Which makes sense. Trumpism is about as anti libertarian as one can get.

I support individual freedoms, small government, and personal responsibility.

However, I don't support selfishness couched in "individual freedoms" e.g., like not wearing a mask even though it's a public health emergency. 

I am not really a libertarian though I just don't like either major party.  But right now the Democratic Party is far better and far less corrupt.

[Non Swing Voter]

So if I'm understanding things right, this next Georgia recount will just be a machine recount?

Yup. https://twitter.com/brendankeefe/status/1330370731427958785?s=21

Trump should have waited til Tuesday to request if his only goal now is delay.  Sounds like if they start on Monday it could end really quick.

[Non Swing Voter]

Isn't Sidney Powell also representing Michael Flynn right now?

[Non Swing Voter]

Isn't Sidney Powell also representing Michael Flynn right now?

Yes.

lol.  what a disaster.

[Non Swing Voter]

I think it's a good time to remember that while Trump's ridiculous efforts to overturn the election aren't gaining traction and will fail, the only reason this is even remotely possible is because the vast majority of republicans (not just politicians) only care about power and not the rule of law, morals, ethics, etc.   

These are the same people who preach about abortion being murder but could care less about senior citizens dying of covid.  Most of normal society doesn't realize what a cult like world 40% of the country lives in, which has grown because of outlets like FoxNews. 

[Non Swing Voter]

you can watch the MI certification live:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/23/michigan-election-state-canvassers-certification/6390475002/

based on what I've been seeing it looks like MI will certify in a 3-1 vote.  2 D's, 1 R, 1 Hack loser.

[Non Swing Voter]

Michigan just certified. Vote was 3 yeas, Shirkle abstained. Source: Live stream

Nessel should prosecute him and he should be referred to the bar.  Abstaining rather than voting "no" is further evidence that he acted in bad faith.  Time for these dirtbags to face consequences.

[Non Swing Voter]

THE CERTIFYING DUTCHMAN!

Seriously, though, it's still unsettling that it came to this. God only knows what AVL would have done if Nessel hadn't threatened to #LockHimUp. (Literally God only knows; there's an entire theological question about to what extent He "knows" counterfactuals.)

I want her to lock up the abstainer though.  Please let this happen.

[Non Swing Voter]

Side note: Trump is very lucky he's never been a Michigan resident, because Nessel would TOTALLY indict him for tax fraud or any other shady thing he did once he's a private citizen. Has Trump ever owned any properties in Michigan? If so I bet she'll be probing those finances anyway...

LOL, you think the NY AG is any less eager?  and you get the added benefit of a NY jury pool instead of a MI jury pool.  Trump's histrionics post election are about his looming jail prospects.

[Non Swing Voter]

Side note: Trump is very lucky he's never been a Michigan resident, because Nessel would TOTALLY indict him for tax fraud or any other shady thing he did once he's a private citizen. Has Trump ever owned any properties in Michigan? If so I bet she'll be probing those finances anyway...

LOL, you think the NY AG is any less eager?  and you get the added benefit of a NY jury pool instead of a MI jury pool.  Trump's histrionics post election are about his looming jail prospects.

If the Trump Org was in FL instead, the AG would potentially be some corrupt swamp creature like Pam Bondi. Bondi dropped a investigation into the Trump Org in the 2000's after she got a big campaign donation from Trump. DeSantis would probably pardon Trump for any FL charge as well.

Thankfully Trump and family committed all their crimes in NY.  This is why he's so scared to leave office.  No protection and no partisan actors helping him.  Plus a jury pool that despises him. 

Imagine going from the high of being President and genuinely thinking you'd be re-elected to the low of losing and realizing ur going to face all kinds of prosecution really soon.  Must be an awful feeling.  And all I have to say is, ha ha ha.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331393814028820481

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331404288149643264

I love seeing his emotional breakdowns.  He's really suffering. 

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1331703787787071489

[Non Swing Voter]

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[Non Swing Voter]

good summary:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/26/politics/joe-biden-win-analysis/index.html

[Non Swing Voter]

I am still enjoying Trump's mental breakdown.  I even started following him on twitter just to revel in his complete break from reality. 

[Non Swing Voter]

remember when people said Republicans would grow a backbone and acknowledge Biden as President elect after Michigan and Georgia certified?  and Pennsylvania?  Now Arizona and Wisconsin have.  Still not seeing any acknowledgment.  I hope this gives the Biden administration some added drive to lock up all these criminal traitors.