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« on: December 17, 2014, 05:37:32 PM »

In general, it's in bad taste to inject religion into holiday celebrations.  If you're with your family and friends, it's just awkward to bring up religion.  The point of holidays is to eat and drink and be merry, right?

And, how would you incorporate the cross into Christmas?  Would you crucify a likeness of the Grinch who stole Christmas or Ebenezer Scrooge? 
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 06:02:35 PM »

In general, it's in bad taste to inject religion into holiday celebrations.  If you're with your family and friends, it's just awkward to bring up religion.  The point of holidays is to eat and drink and be merry, right?

...not sure if adding to the trolling or genuinely that ignorant that this holiday has religious significance.

There's celebration and there's church.  Many people go to a church on Christmas.  I went once with some of my Christian relatives.  Unfortunately, it was pretty damn boring and I had to get out the book I was reading to pass the time during the talk the preacher or whatever gave. 

That's all fine though because people can skip those religious events if they don't like them.  But, if you're going to pray or bring up religion in a holiday party with your family.  It's awkward and out of place.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2014, 12:25:07 AM »

In general, it's in bad taste to inject religion into holiday celebrations.  If you're with your family and friends, it's just awkward to bring up religion.  The point of holidays is to eat and drink and be merry, right?

Do you know why they call it a holiday?  

If there is a cross it should be discrete, nearly subliminal, as a hint of things to come.

Do you actually want to talk about religion with your family or have awkward praying in your house?  That seems like a perfect way to ruin a Christmas party.

I don't understand this.  What is the religious element of Christmas in terms of practice?  Singing Christmas songs?  No.  Overeating?  No.  Getting drunk?  No.  Giving gifts?  No.  I don't see where the religion is supposed to actually enter in.  
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2014, 10:11:23 AM »

In general, it's in bad taste to inject religion into holiday celebrations.  If you're with your family and friends, it's just awkward to bring up religion.  The point of holidays is to eat and drink and be merry, right?

Do you know why they call it a holiday?  

If there is a cross it should be discrete, nearly subliminal, as a hint of things to come.

Do you actually want to talk about religion with your family or have awkward praying in your house?  That seems like a perfect way to ruin a Christmas party.

Ignoring your painful ignorance for just a second...

This wasn't really about doing overtly religious acts like talking about the intricacies of religion or even praying. My original response to you was because you seemed to suggest there was no religious link to Christmas to begin with so we shouldn't go "mixing" it in because it's best to keep those "awkward" things away. Again, you might just be trolling but your comment seemedgenuinely moronic. 

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...maybe recognizing that the holiday has a religious origin? Spare me the "Winter Solistice celebration" nonsense. December 25th is observed in modern times (and by that I mean the last several hundred years, at least) because it is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. If overtly religious actions don't enter your celebrations, that's nice for you but if you can't even acknowledge the religious basis of the day/season, you're generally hopeless.

Who would claim that Christmas isn't a Christian holiday?  Of course it is.  Christmas, as most people celebrate it, is part of the American culture, shaped by the fact that this is a Christian country.  But, the origin isn't the same thing as the practice.  The tradition of Christmas are for the most part secular and celebrating any holiday is always more about spending time with people you love more than any specific tradition. 

Again, I just think it's in bad taste to make a holiday party into a religious meeting and certainly decorating a cross or whatever is strange.
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