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« on: March 14, 2016, 09:43:51 PM »

Can anyone give me a quick summary of what Trudeau has actually done since become Prime Minister, and what his big proposals are?
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2016, 10:12:54 PM »
« Edited: March 15, 2016, 10:40:00 PM by Blue3 »

Thanks!

So nothing earth-shaking. I was wondering if there might be, since this was the first big change in Canada's politics in a while, and he seems like a young/charismatic/progressive leader. But Canada is too close to perfect that it doesn't need any fundamental reforms, it seems, at least compared to the USA Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 11:34:28 PM »

If Canada was warmer than the US instead of colder I would probably be looking into dual citizenship Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 02:55:32 PM »

If Canada was warmer than the US instead of colder I would probably be looking into dual citizenship Tongue

It's called a coat.
I'm talking about sunshine and being able to sunbathe on a hammock in your backyard and never deal with shoveling snow or driving in snow
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 09:32:13 PM »

I'm seriously thinking of moving to Florida for the weather Smiley It just has sucky politics
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 06:04:29 PM »

About a year ago in this thread, I asked what Trudeau and his party campaigned on, what they wanted to accomplish, what the Canadian people were demanding.

What is the status of it all now?

(I vaguely remember some form of electoral reform that people thought was shaky even then, some infrastructure/environmental work with a small price-tag, a small budget deficit being reduced, and something about First/Native Americans)
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 08:15:37 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2017, 08:18:38 PM by Blue3 »

About a year ago in this thread, I asked what Trudeau and his party campaigned on, what they wanted to accomplish, what the Canadian people were demanding.

What is the status of it all now?

(I vaguely remember some form of electoral reform that people thought was shaky even then, some infrastructure/environmental work with a small price-tag, a small budget deficit being reduced, and something about First/Native Americans)

TrudeauMeter is your friend. Deficits are gargantuan for the foreseeable future, Harper's GHG targets have been adopted and a federal carbon tax is coming. Aboriginal issues - inquiry into missing & murdered women (MMIW) held but otherwise not a yuge change from Harper, despite a better tone. Electoral reform is dead.

Thanks.

Though are those items I listed the "big promises"? Did I miss any "big promises"?
(223 is a lot to scroll through Tongue )
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 04:43:10 PM »

About a year ago in this thread, I asked what Trudeau and his party campaigned on, what they wanted to accomplish, what the Canadian people were demanding.

What is the status of it all now?

(I vaguely remember some form of electoral reform that people thought was shaky even then, some infrastructure/environmental work with a small price-tag, a small budget deficit being reduced, and something about First/Native Americans)

TrudeauMeter is your friend. Deficits are gargantuan for the foreseeable future, Harper's GHG targets have been adopted and a federal carbon tax is coming. Aboriginal issues - inquiry into missing & murdered women (MMIW) held but otherwise not a yuge change from Harper, despite a better tone. Electoral reform is dead.

Thanks.

Though are those items I listed the "big promises"? Did I miss any "big promises"?
(223 is a lot to scroll through Tongue )

Kept the promise to make the Senate independent by forming an independent commission to choose the people to appoint.

Kept the promise on the (upper) middle class tax cut.

Brought in a new expanded child benefit that rolled some of the existing benefits into this one and eliminated others.  According to the Liberals, 90% of families will receive higher benefits.

Did away with the muzzle on government scientists and brought back the long form census.

Approved the Kinder Morgan Pipeline.

Also brought in a new law on assisted death after being mandated by the Supreme Court.

Prime Minister Trudeau has broken some promises and breaking the promise on electoral reform was pretty brazen, but overall I'd say this government is a major improvement in policy and tone and has significantly reduced the harshness and hyper partisanship from the Harper Conservative government. Not only is there no noxious person in the cabinet like Pierre Polievre but, in general, I'd say that the Liberal cabinet ministers are far more intelligent than the previous Conservatives.  

The overwhelmingly conservative mainstream Canadian media (at least in terms of the major editorials) has had to whine, for instance, that Justin Trudeau's line at some foreign event of "Canada is back" was nothing more than a boast of "The Liberals are back in power" when what Trudeau clearly meant was that Canada was going to engage in such things as climate change commitments and assisting the United Nations rather than taking disparaging shots at it after not getting a seat back on the Security Counsel.

Also, there will almost certainly not going to be a federal carbon tax as 8 of the 10 provinces and the three  territories already have or will have their own systems in place (either a carbon tax or cap and trade.)  We'll see what happens if Saskatchewan and/or Manitoba hold out (unless the Conservatives win the 2019 election), but I can't imagine whoever the Premiers of those provinces are by then would want to face the wrath of the other Premiers by forcing a national carbon tax.

Thanks.

I ask because I often wonder if Canadian liberals/progressives have a big list of policies to change, like they do in the United States, or if they're mostly happy and just want to do some tweaking.

It seems like the answer is the latter. The only "big things" they want deal with political process, like electoral reform and Senate reform. But as for everything else... it seems people just want to tweak some things, and make sure common-sense things like infrastructure are maintained and the deficit shrinks.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 08:25:18 PM »

Liberals have been the Natural Governing Party (TM) for 120 years, easy to be relaxed when everyone works within your paradigm.
But I wonder how much is elitism/complacency/out-of-touch... and how much is that almost every liberal dream has been accomplished already in Canada.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 03:44:01 PM »

I posted this in OT, but you guys might like this too:






Which Millennial Tribe are you in?
 (geared towards Canadians, but could probably apply outside Canada too)

http://environicsresearch.com/insights/meet-millennials/

After taking the quiz, apparently I'm a "Critical Counterculturalist" (I don't think it's the best description of me, but whatever, it was a fun personality quiz)

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The others are "Engaged Idealists," "New Traditionalists," "Bros and Brittanys," "Lone Wolves," and "Diverse Strivers."
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2017, 05:30:51 PM »

So I seem to ask this every 8 months or something, but still curious since I'm not a regular observer of Canadian politics...


1. What appear to be Trudeau's broken promises and failures, so far? What did he say he'd do but hasn't done, at least not yet? That's still on their To-Do list?

2. What are the biggest ideas of the opposition?
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