2022 Primary Election Night Coverage Megathread (9/13 - GRAND FINALE - DE, NH, RI) (user search)
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 17, 2022, 07:35:20 PM »

Fetterman's getting almost 3/4 of the vote in Centre County.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2022, 10:07:40 PM »

Westmoreland is all in and Oz is only losing the county by less than 1%.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2022, 10:08:40 PM »

With what's left in SEPA, Oz might just have this now.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2022, 10:26:29 PM »

Looks like the last of York County came in, may have added a bit more to Oz's total, margin is under 2k now

Something new came in, we're up to 93% reporting now from 92% but the margin is up to 2,523 from under 2K.

That looks like it was Erie. Otherwise, most changes seem to be around the edges with counties finalizing their totals.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2022, 11:54:43 PM »

Oz now up by just under 1k. According to the NYT map, the only counties not reporting at least 95% are Franklin (70%) and Carbon (80%). Both are narrow Oz counties.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2022, 12:37:39 AM »

Big vote dump came in from somewhere. Oz is up by 2840.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2022, 01:13:16 AM »


NYT is estimating another ~42k for the Democratic side and another ~32k for the Republican side. If those are estimates are correct, it'd be about D+8 overall, only very slightly worse than the Biden+8.85% result. Of course, as we all know, trying to forecast the general election with primary turnout should be taken with a generous dose of NaCl.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2022, 06:19:52 AM »

I didn't think Schrader was going to survive based on early returns and it looks like that was right. I didn't know there was that serious of a challenge. That made my night. I haven't forgotten his attempt at trying to prevent Pelosi's return to the Speakership, not to mention the multitude of issues that he attempted or voted to derail. Good riddance. If we lose this seat, the House is long gone, but we'll at least be able to get someone better in a better year. It's really quite amazing how many of her enemies that Pelosi has managed to outlast.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2022, 08:35:09 PM »


Only 30% is in though and we don't necessarily know from where in the County these are coming from

She probably needs to win there by quite a bit. She's done, as we all knew before tonight.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2022, 09:03:48 PM »

The early returns seem to look like a standard D vs. R race with Cheney standing in for the former.

Gotta say it's hard to take the "Trump is losing his hold on the GOP" takes seriously when ALL of the pro-impeachment Rs are losing primaries

Dan Newhouse and David Valadao say hello.

Top-two primaries aren't really the same. Valadao could very well end up going down in November too.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2022, 09:21:21 PM »

On any other night before January 6th. 2021, I would've celebrated Liz Cheney's defeat. That is not true tonight. This is not a good day for this country or the values of our Constitution. The experiment is failing or may have failed already and we just don't know it yet.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,329
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2022, 09:42:38 PM »

On any other night before January 6th. 2021, I would've celebrated Liz Cheney's defeat. That is not true tonight. This is not a good day for this country or the values of our Constitution. The experiment is failing or may have failed already and we just don't know it yet.

Insane take. Getting Liz Cheney out of Congress has dramatically reduced the probability of another such event. Getting her out of the country would be agreeable as well.

Supporting a cult of personality (and one that attempts to overturn the government) is one of the most antithetical viewpoints in opposition to the values established by the Constitution. It is tantamount to treason.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,329
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2022, 05:18:43 AM »

Cheney's campaign literally managed to turn Cheney vs. Hageman into a D vs. R contest in Wyoming and - surprisingly - got..... Cheney'd like a generic liberal D. Never seen an incumbent self-immolate to this extent.

Truly a sight to behold.

Yeah. Ds definitely crossed over - just 7,233 votes were cast in WY-AL D compared to 19,474 in 2018 and 23,576 in 2020. Problem is, there are hardly any Democrats in Wyoming and very few Rs are willing to vote Cheney at this point. But...as we saw in other districts, a strategy of trying to make people forget about your impeachment vote doesn't necessarily work either, unless you're lucky enough to live in a Jungle Primary state.

The only way Cheney could have won re-election was to fully cast herself as in-line with Trump, and that would be in direct violation of her principles. Yes, many politicians are willing to do so. But that should not be the case.

If I were in Wyoming, I myself might have done the impossible and voted to save Liz Cheney. The alternative is so much worse. If the election had gone the other way, I'm quite sure there would not have been a concession.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,329
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Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

P P
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2022, 07:48:50 AM »

Cheney's campaign literally managed to turn Cheney vs. Hageman into a D vs. R contest in Wyoming and - surprisingly - got..... Cheney'd like a generic liberal D. Never seen an incumbent self-immolate to this extent.

Truly a sight to behold.

Yeah. Ds definitely crossed over - just 7,233 votes were cast in WY-AL D compared to 19,474 in 2018 and 23,576 in 2020. Problem is, there are hardly any Democrats in Wyoming and very few Rs are willing to vote Cheney at this point. But...as we saw in other districts, a strategy of trying to make people forget about your impeachment vote doesn't necessarily work either, unless you're lucky enough to live in a Jungle Primary state.

The only way Cheney could have won re-election was to fully cast herself as in-line with Trump, and that would be in direct violation of her principles. Yes, many politicians are willing to do so. But that should not be the case.

If I were in Wyoming, I myself might have done the impossible and voted to save Liz Cheney. The alternative is so much worse. If the election had gone the other way, I'm quite sure there would not have been a concession.

The alternative is almost certainly far more incompetent, and Cheney has largely been a malevolent force. The only real downside is further incentive for Republicans to engage in election trutherism in the context of supporting Donald Trump, and Cheney's loss is but one among several such reinforcements of this incentive.

Competence is irrelevant. The cult of personality rules. Liz Cheney was a lot of things, but she was not a threat to the fundamental aspects of American democracy.
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