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« on: October 28, 2012, 10:08:08 AM »

This is actually rather good. Slight leads in places like MN, terrible deficits in places like Missouri and across the South.

I'm starting to think Romney might have to win the PV by 3-4% (Of course this statement will probably look silly when all the votes are in next week...it's not a very probable thing....but this year is crazy) to win the Electoral College.

I highly doubt an election can go +3 or +4 in any direction and the electoral college ends up going the other way. It's not like the Southern vote isn't cancelled out by the Northeast, where Obama is cruising in New York and that California doesn't basically cancel out Texas.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 10:11:24 AM »

This and their Florida senate poll make it pretty clear that Mason-Dixon has a 3-4 points Republican lean.
Or you could look at it that it's a Minnesota "Red" Star poll, which generally tilts Democrat.

I'd take the more realistic view that it is what it is. A data point.

Given the 2008 actual numbers and assuming a +7 or +8 shift in the electorate when Independents self identify per Gallup, these numbers are not outside of the realm of possibility.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 08:41:52 PM »

If Romney campaigns in MN it wont look like he is a momentum candidate expanding the map, it will look like he is a desperate candidate trying to find a path around Ohio.
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1) I think any rational person will agree that if Romney wins Minnesota of all states, he wins Ohio with ease. Minnesota is a tier 2 state to any Republican win. (Akin to NC going into the D camp, you'd be looking at a 300-350 EV scenario).
2) Virginia is pretty much closed off to campaigning for a few days.
3) It's not like Romney can't do a MSP-suburbs/pick a city in Wisconsin two-stopper with ease.
4) Any trip into the MSP area, will be beamed into Northwestern WI. It's a two-fer.
5) Expanding the map and making your opponent play defense is NOT a bad tactic. Especially when your opponent may be stuck in DC for a few days being President.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 10:10:58 PM »

If Romney campaigns in MN it wont look like he is a momentum candidate expanding the map, it will look like he is a desperate candidate trying to find a path around Ohio.
Seriously?

1) I think any rational person will agree that if Romney wins Minnesota of all states, he wins Ohio with ease. Minnesota is a tier 2 state to any Republican win. (Akin to NC going into the D camp, you'd be looking at a 300-350 EV scenario).
2) Virginia is pretty much closed off to campaigning for a few days.
3) It's not like Romney can't do a MSP-suburbs/pick a city in Wisconsin two-stopper with ease.
4) Any trip into the MSP area, will be beamed into Northwestern WI. It's a two-fer.
5) Expanding the map and making your opponent play defense is NOT a bad tactic. Especially when your opponent may be stuck in DC for a few days being President.

The time for Romney to expand the map was 2 weeks ago when he had momentum and he was polling ahead in at least half of the battleground states but since then things have been flat or receding and his OH problem looms larger and larger and so a move into MN will be seen more as a way around his OH problem and not really expanding the map. Or that is my bet on how the MSM would cover it
Doubt it. Only because even with perceived bias, the media gets better ratings if the race is considered a horse race.
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