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Question: Do you believe in the Resurrection of Jesus?
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Yes, it was a bodily resurrection
 
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Yes, it was a spiritual resurrection
 
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No
 
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12th Doctor
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« on: July 28, 2009, 05:21:53 PM »

Well, it is interesting that you believe that, but scripture directly contradicts that notion.  We are explicitly told that there was nothing left in the tomb, and that, while there was a clear change in Christ's physical personage (he was not recognized on the road) that there was a real body present.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 07:10:30 PM »

I suppose that the simple truth of the matter is that my beliefs are an expression of pantheism placed into a Christian mindset. The basis of my beliefs is not the text of the Bible, but instead an interpretation of the Bible through the lense of a non-Christian. I suppose that I am of an atheistic, scientific mind and a Christian, wondrous heart, and this is my attempt to bridge that gap. I believe what I do because, to me, it reconciles the nature of the universe as observed with the supernatural world, and, in doing so, simplifies the complexities and absolves the contradictions that I otherwise find between the two.

It is true that the Bible, taken literally, does not support me. But that is ok. I am not looking for its support or its approval, or yours jmfcst.

As such, I take what I believe only on faith, the faith that if I continue to search along my spiritual journey I will find pieces of truth here and there that will eventually add up to something more. What I believe today may not be what I believe tomorrow because I may find something new I never before saw. To me, that is the intrigue of the journey of faith, that you never know what God has yet to show you or what is around the corner, and that what is there might just be more than you could ever previously imagine.

Well, the Catholic Church is technically pantheist, as it sees itself as the one Universal Church (thus not even recognizing the possibility of other options), as is implicit in it's very name.  I am Catholic.  I don't agree with what you are saying, nor does my Church.  You are going to have to come up with something more than just "I'm a pantheist."
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supersoulty
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 07:31:51 PM »

I suppose that the simple truth of the matter is that my beliefs are an expression of pantheism placed into a Christian mindset. The basis of my beliefs is not the text of the Bible, but instead an interpretation of the Bible through the lense of a non-Christian. I suppose that I am of an atheistic, scientific mind and a Christian, wondrous heart, and this is my attempt to bridge that gap. I believe what I do because, to me, it reconciles the nature of the universe as observed with the supernatural world, and, in doing so, simplifies the complexities and absolves the contradictions that I otherwise find between the two.

It is true that the Bible, taken literally, does not support me. But that is ok. I am not looking for its support or its approval, or yours jmfcst.

As such, I take what I believe only on faith, the faith that if I continue to search along my spiritual journey I will find pieces of truth here and there that will eventually add up to something more. What I believe today may not be what I believe tomorrow because I may find something new I never before saw. To me, that is the intrigue of the journey of faith, that you never know what God has yet to show you or what is around the corner, and that what is there might just be more than you could ever previously imagine.

Well, the Catholic Church is technically pantheist, as it sees itself as the one Universal Church (thus not even recognizing the possibility of other options), as is implicit in it's very name.  I am Catholic.  I don't agree with what you are saying, nor does my Church.  You are going to have to come up with something more than just "I'm a pantheist."

I am not claiming to be a Catholic. I am referring to pantheism as "the view that everything is part of an all-encompassing immanent God." I take this to mean that God and the Universe are coextensive. I am not familiar enough with the teachings of Catholicism to know what they take 'pantheist' to mean, but I believe we have different definitions.

What I meant was not that the Catholic Church uses that term, but rather that the mentality of the Church is such that it is all encompassing, because God is all encompassing, and the Church is the body of Christ.  That does not, however, disclude its adherence to scripture.
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