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12th Doctor
supersoulty
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« on: July 20, 2004, 04:19:08 AM »

I plan on running for a relativly minor office, getting pissed-off at the party bosses and then leading an upstrat 3rd party movement.  Smiley


No not really.  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2004, 12:59:58 AM »
« Edited: July 22, 2004, 01:00:37 AM by Vice-President Supersoulty »

As someone who used to be involved in politics for real, I think I have some pretty good insight into this question. While I have not met you guys in person, based on what I've read on this forum in terms of substance AND style, there are very, very few people who actually have a chance to be elected to significant political office.

On the forum, one person stands out above the rest as a guy with a very, very real future in politics based on his intelligence, demeanor, and the substance AND style of his arguments. More on him at the end...

But guys who COULD have a future from what I see include Supersoulty and PBrunsel on the Republican side, and Ben and Nym90 on the Democratic side. As for the European contingent, both Gustaf and JFK could also be on that track. But all of these people mentioned have limitations which could hinder their chances...

The only surefire politician on this forum...if he wants it...is John Ford.

Just out of couriosity, and you know I won't get offended if you speak the blunt truth, what limitations do you see for me?  And I want you to be VERY honest.


If you are honest, I can work on improvement.
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supersoulty
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2004, 01:13:03 AM »

As someone who used to be involved in politics for real, I think I have some pretty good insight into this question. While I have not met you guys in person, based on what I've read on this forum in terms of substance AND style, there are very, very few people who actually have a chance to be elected to significant political office.

On the forum, one person stands out above the rest as a guy with a very, very real future in politics based on his intelligence, demeanor, and the substance AND style of his arguments. More on him at the end...

But guys who COULD have a future from what I see include Supersoulty and PBrunsel on the Republican side, and Ben and Nym90 on the Democratic side. As for the European contingent, both Gustaf and JFK could also be on that track. But all of these people mentioned have limitations which could hinder their chances...

The only surefire politician on this forum...if he wants it...is John Ford.

Just out of couriosity, and you know I won't get offended if you speak the blunt truth, what limitations do you see for me?  And I want you to be VERY honest.


If you are honest, I can work on improvement.

Supersoulty,

Self-confidence...voters are like animals, they can sense weakness and self-doubt, that's why Dan Quayle took a major beating when he emerged as a national figure...the self-doubt oozed from his every pore. You're VERY confident in your beliefs and you definitely have the rhetorical style (on paper) to do well in politics, but I question whether or not you can translate that "written" confidence to "verbal" confidence when confronted with situations where you are uncomfortable. How one improvises at moments of weakness are critical to a politician, and if there is such a thing, you may be TOO HONEST to adequately improvise.

Sorry if that pisses you off, but you asked me to be honest, so I was.

No, I appriciate it.  What you said is very true, I think.  I've been working on it.  The verbal part.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2004, 01:26:17 AM »

Supersoulty,

You could cure all of that by conquering some demons which we have previously discussed in another thread. Unless I miss my guess, your lack of success in that arena has begun to pervade your overall personality, and you cannot let that happen, not just for the sake of a potential political career either.

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I'm acctually quite optimistic about the future though.
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supersoulty
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2004, 02:31:05 AM »

Is that all you have to say for me, though?
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supersoulty
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2004, 02:42:54 AM »


Supersoulty,

No, far from it, but you just asked for the negatives. The positives are that you have an outstanding grasp of the issues and you have this natural demeanor that makes people want to like you. You would find a lot of support from those in your own party, and would even have crossover appeal if you were able to express yourself in person the way you express yourself on paper. Seriously, the only thing holding you back would be that self-confidence issue.

I think that your words have helped.  Smiley
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supersoulty
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2004, 02:56:27 AM »


Supersoulty,

No, far from it, but you just asked for the negatives. The positives are that you have an outstanding grasp of the issues and you have this natural demeanor that makes people want to like you. You would find a lot of support from those in your own party, and would even have crossover appeal if you were able to express yourself in person the way you express yourself on paper. Seriously, the only thing holding you back would be that self-confidence issue.

I think that your words have helped.  Smiley

Supersoulty,

And it's a real gift that you have when I say that people "want to like you"

That's a great positive in life. I have a variation on that in my personality...people either LOVE me or HATE me...and there are generally very few people in between. I was literally the most POPULAR person AND most HATED person in my entire High School...both at the same time.

Funny, I always thought of myself as a love me/hate me person too.  But I have an old paranoia about people pretending to like me, but then talking behind my back.  Comes from high school
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