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LucysBeau
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« on: March 18, 2007, 08:16:12 AM »

Were I a Democratic senator, I'd most certainly re-introduce the Flag Desecration Amendment. Flag desecration is pretty abhorant

Nothing to do whatsoever with me wanting to stifle free speech, but some things should be sacrosanct and the flag is one of them

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LucysBeau
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 06:22:18 AM »


What other types of free speech do you favor banning, out of curiosity?

Desecrating flags is not something I particularly consider to be free speech

Of course, there are types of free speech I would ban such as glorifying terrorism. That kind of thing which is totally alien to civil society and, of course, which threaten to undermine it

Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion on anything but that which incites violence, or glorifies it, crosses that fine line between civil liberties Smiley and taking liberties Sad

While many people, undoubtedly disapprove, of such things as the Patriot Act and wire-tapping since they believe that they infringe upon civil liberties, I take the opposite view and see such measures as enhancing the civil liberties of those who don't pose a threat to it

But, as I've said as far as the flag is concerned, I consider it sacrosanct; therefore, inviolable

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LucysBeau
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 11:41:42 AM »

Were I a Democratic senator, I'd most certainly re-introduce the Flag Desecration Amendment. Flag desecration is pretty abhorant

Nothing to do whatsoever with me wanting to stifle free speech, but some things should be sacrosanct and the flag is one of them

Dave

What about the spitting chewing gum on the sidewalk constitutional admendment? We could use one of those, too.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2007, 12:41:41 PM »

Yes, the flag is a symbol, but one that I feel warrants deference at the very least. Something which unites Smiley rather than divides Sad regardless of whether you sit on the political spectrum

And for any one to desecrate such a symbol to me seems pretty much beyond the pale. You have to draw the line at some things and I consider flag desecration one of them


While many people, undoubtedly disapprove, of such things as the Patriot Act and wire-tapping since they believe that they infringe upon civil liberties, I take the opposite view and see such measures as enhancing the civil liberties of those who don't pose a threat to it

How does it enhance civil liberties?  (Fair question...) It may make people safer, but that isn't enhancing civil liberties.  It's still reducing them.


The way I see it is that if appropriate security measures weren't taken to enhance safety in a precarious world, with all kind of heinous threats out there, then I'd go as far to say that civil liberties are being seriously undermined. People should be able to walk down the street and go about their daily lives without fear of terrorism. In that way, such security measures, whether intrusive or not, enhance, rather than restrict, civil liberties

Dave
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