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« on: March 11, 2024, 08:40:30 PM »

The crime rate for illegal immigrants is 100% unless they came as children. I don’t believe in demonizing them though.

Not quite true.  But the rate of illegal immigrants that commit crimes is 100% for those who re-enter the United States after having previously been deported.

The study in question talks about "immigrants".  What percentage of Illegal Immigrants commit crimes?  There's a world of difference between Legal Immigrants and Illegal Immigrants in terms of behavior over time.

Illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes against other illegal immigrants than against American citizens.  Illegal immigrant victims are less likely to report being victimized to authorities for fear of being deported.  Illegal immigrants committing crimes are certainly less likely to be reported to authorities if people know that they are members of Transnational Gangs.

Were the Mariel Boatlift aliens more or less law abiding?  They were less law abiding, and no one disputes this.  The present state of our border has caused Venezuela to release prisoners and send them off on the road to the Rio Grande into America.  It cuts their budgets.  There is a cooperative effort from pols to gaslight the rest of us for refusing to back down from the position that allowing people to freely enter America unvetted (which we're pretty close to) is simply intolerable and wrong. 
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2024, 09:15:07 PM »

The crime rate for illegal immigrants is 100% unless they came as children. I don’t believe in demonizing them though.

Not quite true.  But the rate of illegal immigrants that commit crimes is 100% for those who re-enter the United States after having previously been deported.

The study in question talks about "immigrants".  What percentage of Illegal Immigrants commit crimes?  There's a world of difference between Legal Immigrants and Illegal Immigrants in terms of behavior over time.

Illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes against other illegal immigrants than against American citizens.  Illegal immigrant victims are less likely to report being victimized to authorities for fear of being deported.  Illegal immigrants committing crimes are certainly less likely to be reported to authorities if people know that they are members of Transnational Gangs.

Were the Mariel Boatlift aliens more or less law abiding?  They were less law abiding, and no one disputes this.  The present state of our border has caused Venezuela to release prisoners and send them off on the road to the Rio Grande into America.  It cuts their budgets.  There is a cooperative effort from pols to gaslight the rest of us for refusing to back down from the position that allowing people to freely enter America unvetted (which we're pretty close to) is simply intolerable and wrong.  


In fact, recent surveys indicate that most Cubans who arrived in the Mariel exodus are not much different from earlier exiles. The majority of both groups identify with the Republican Party, pay their taxes, value home ownership and American citizenship and practice Catholicism.

About 4,000 Mariel refugees are behind bars, doing time in state or federal prisons for crimes committed here. An additional 2,600 Mariel arrivals are held in custody by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. And 375 more have been deported to Cuba. That represents about 5% of those who came from Mariel.


 Mind you out of 125,000 that arrived on "Marielita" boatlifts, Castro certainly did empty jails and mental institutions among those arrivals.

 

Your figures do not include those released from prison who have remained in the US.  That's a pretty big omission.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2024, 08:59:12 PM »

While it’s absolutely horrible what happened to Laken Riley, it’s even worse what Republicans are trying to exploit from her murder.

Separately, they’ll use a young white woman to do it. Out west and in Alaska they’re completely ignoring the systemic abduction, rape, murder and trafficking of native women. They’re even actively trying to obfuscate the issue and make sure nothing is done because it’s home grown good ole boys engaged in it too.

If you really think that making political hay out of Laken Riley's death is worse than her murder, that's a statement about you.  And not a positive one.

Who, by the way, is the "they" that are ignoring the systematic abduction, rape, murder, and trafficking of Native Women?  "They" shouldn't be ignoring it, and Law Enforcement ought to be investing significant resources in putting that to a stop. 

Your statement speaks for itself and the kind of person you are.  You just suggested that making political hay over a brutal murder is worse than the murder itself.  Give that some thought.  If you really believe that, get help.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2024, 09:25:06 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2024, 09:30:22 AM by Fuzzy Won't Cover Up Biden's Senility »

While it’s absolutely horrible what happened to Laken Riley, it’s even worse what Republicans are trying to exploit from her murder.

Separately, they’ll use a young white woman to do it. Out west and in Alaska they’re completely ignoring the systemic abduction, rape, murder and trafficking of native women. They’re even actively trying to obfuscate the issue and make sure nothing is done because it’s home grown good ole boys engaged in it too.

If you really think that making political hay out of Laken Riley's death is worse than her murder, that's a statement about you.  And not a positive one.

Who, by the way, is the "they" that are ignoring the systematic abduction, rape, murder, and trafficking of Native Women?  "They" shouldn't be ignoring it, and Law Enforcement ought to be investing significant resources in putting that to a stop.  

Your statement speaks for itself and the kind of person you are.  You just suggested that making political hay over a brutal murder is worse than the murder itself.  Give that some thought.  If you really believe that, get help.

I'd also point out that Gorguf, omegascarlet, Fubart Solomon, and T'Chenka recommended your post. What does this say about them when they "Recommend" a post that suggests that the people "making political hay" over Laken Riley are worse than the murderer, and the act of making political hay worse than the murder itself?  

People have the right to be wrong to a degree, I suppose, but when people actually "Recommend" THAT and mean it, they're either (A) not paying attention at all, or (B) so politically driven that they need to consider how insensitive (indeed, how downright hateful) they have become to victims of murder and their survivors who vote the wrong way.  They get to post this, I suppose, and they get to "Recommend" such posts, but these people, if they really subscribe to the sentiment, they, too, need to consider the need to seek some kind of help.  They have "Recommended" a sentiment that cannot be defended by anyone with a smidgen of logic and morality.
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