He's been doing this for awhile and of course the results of this crap is what people like hermit are lapping up without question.
Sorry, but I'm not going to lap up the "Whatever it takes!" standard for Ukraine without question. I've been asked (figuratively) to do this over Vietnam, over Kuwait, over Irag, and over Afghanistan in my lifetime, and I don't think that either America or the World is any better off for all of this. The War Profiteers are better off, but I don't care about them. Bechtel profited immensely on Desert Storm and Halliburton profited immensely on Iraq. Where are the "liberals" on who profits from Ukraine? (Indeed, even Harry Truman, as a Senator, investigated war profiteering during WWII.)
The die-hard Bidenistas here (read "Democratic Party Hacks") need this war to reelect their President, no matter how badly it's going. I've been alive for my government (from both parties) lying about how well an American war was going, and I was alive for the government's response to Daniel Ellsberg when he "leaked" the Pentagon Papers, disclosing the truth about the light at the end of the tunnel being on oncoming train. I've been alive for proxy wars, but there's a problem when you are in a proxy war against a nuclear power like, say, Russia, and victory hinges on sponsoring an attack against that nation inside its borders. (That, by the way, is likely what will be needed to succeed in Ukraine at some point, so speculate how that will end.)
There is no humanitarian reason not to be all in for a meaningful peace process that can bring forth a resolution to the war and prevent literally MILLIONS from dying. Why we are not pursuing that is nonsense. And I am going to say this unequivocally: Anyone who thinks that Putin is going to just surrender himself to The Hague as a War Criminal is nuts. He'll use nukes first. And a basic reality of our World is that the rules are different for nations that have nukes as opposed to nations that don't.
Now I'll again renew my call for young, military age posters of this Forum who are "all in" on this war to enlist in the Army or Marines and prepare to be two of the American boots on the ground in Ukraine. We'll be there someday soon at the rate things are going. This isn't apology for Putin; this is the conviction of an anti-war American who's been consistently anti-war since Vietnam, regardless of party. The post I'm responding to is little more than an updated version of "If you don't support our Vietnam War policies, your a Commie, or a Fellow Traveler." Seeking a negotiated settlement is in the interests of America. Indeed, I believe it's in the interest of the whole World.
