Opinion of Fhtagn

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Massive FF.

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In case anyone wants to change their vote, I'll just note that today she said "Benito Mussolini is in heaven."

While my vote in this poll is obviously predictable, in fairness this post was clearly just irony/trolling/not to be taken seriously.

 regardless of horrible political views, I can't still can't throw too many stones about being abrasive. And there's nothing completely awful about someone who loves animals like she does..

That said, yeah, someone who goes on a multi-year bullying spree by trying to spread what she admits to be false rumors of another poster supposedly having a substance abuse problem really kinda solidifies HP status for me. Call me Mr. Sensitive I guess.

I won't lie it's kind of disappointing that so many posters seem to take the opinion of "well, that is truly awful in theory, but it didn't happen to me, and in fact it happened to another poster who kind of annoys me, so FF for sure!", but whatevs. (Shrug)

Due to an unjust muting, fhtagn can't speak for herself right about now, so . . .

Definite mod bias given how insulting Badger has been for so long

Wah, the mods are mean to us after we spent an entire night celebrating two people being killed and I changed my username and avatar! Snowflake.

You're defending someone who publicly wished the muted poster would commit suicide, just saying.

How would you, the reader, react if someone said that about you online here?  How would you react if the mods provided no effective sanction to the person posting that, while sanctioning you with a mute for your reaction to it?  What better way to say YLDM - Your Life Doesn't Matter?

This chapter in Forum History ought to bring people to some realization that ALM - ALL Lives Matter.  Once that is honestly recognized, decency will take a step forward.  Not until then.

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How would you, the reader, react if someone said that about you online here?  How would you react if the mods provided no effective sanction to the person posting that, while sanctioning you with a mute for your reaction to it?  What better way to say YLDM - Your Life Doesn't Matter?

This chapter in Forum History ought to bring people to some realization that ALM - ALL Lives Matter.  Once that is honestly recognized, decency will take a step forward.  Not until then.

All Lives Matter is an attempt to take the BLM movement and strip it of what it's about, to improve the conditions of black people in American society. Yes, every life does indeed matter. Nobody's debating that. "Black Lives Matter" doesn't mean "Non-Black Lives Don't Matter." But that's not why BLM exists. People say Black Lives Matter to paint a spotlight on the injustice that African-Americans specifically experience in society.

Imagine a hurricane hit Florida. A nasty one, I'm talking the likes of Harvey, Sandy, or Katrina. Your power goes out for weeks, the streets are flooded, and many people that you know are killed. You, along with other people, start talking about Florida needing help. But then, a group of Minnesotans start a chant about how ALL States Matter. How would you feel? Would you enjoy the suffering that your community has endured to be reduced and muffled through a bunch of whiners who want other people's problems to be about them?

If you wish to support the struggles that African-Americans face, then I'll gladly support you. But you need to understand the point of the movement, and the fact that it isn't about you. Either get with it, or get out of the f**king way.

I won't get with it.  And I certainly won't get out of the way.  

None of this means that I'm opposed to the entire BLM agenda.  I certainly believe in a number of important criminal justice reforms, in particular the Death Penalty, sentencing reforms, and a dialing back of overcriminalization (which has criminalized civil matters, upgraded misdemeanors to felonies, and increased the number of criminal offenses and penalties for all sorts of things).  I certainly oppose the Death Penalty.  I certainly oppose the level at which we charge juveniles as adults and the racial disparities in that practice.  I certainly support the restoration of felons' voting rights when they have completed their sentences.  And I certainly support dialing back the permanency of criminal records for persons that have lived arrest-free for a point of time.  I believe that the interest of society in not having a large group of people who have become law abiding citizens be shut out of all sorts of economic opportunity due to Criminal Records.  

But when an organization burns down cities in the name of Black Lives Matter, it's time to reassess focus.  The owners of the businesses in 40 American cities that were vandalized by BLM have lives that matter.  The diners in Pinellas County, FL who were harassed by hostile BLM members as they dined outdoors have lives that matter.  The victims of inner city gang violence have lives that matter.  The poor, white folks whose communities in rural America that are awash in Opiate Addiction and who are living in poverty comparable to urban poverty have lives that matter.  (When people refer to THOSE folks as White Trash and it goes unchallenged, it's a testimony as to how much those lives matter to others.)

As for your Hurricane Analogy:  All States DO matter.  I acknowledge that some states, at any given time, are in more immediate need than others, and those needs need to be be addressed when they happen.  That's fine and good.  We are ONE Nation of 50 states, DC, PR, and other territories.  It's not a valid analogy.  My view on Florida needing assistance during Hurricanes did not cause me to wish to deny vital aid to New Jersey for Hurricane Sandy.  The hyperfocus on one state is not meant to be permanent; it's meant to occur until the crisis is stabilized.  The rest of the Nation goes on, and they matter as well.

We're where we're at right now because we forgot that ALL Lives Matter.  People want "unity"?  That's great, but "unity" means I'm an equal.  It means that my life matters, not more than yours, but certainly not less than yours.  And this is a political forum.  My life ought not matter less to my elected leaders than anyone else's life.  Honestly, do you think my life matters equally to Ayanna Pressley or Cori Bush?  (Or Maxine Waters?)  If you want to say that POOR people have pressing needs that need immediate attention, that's one thing.  But that's not what's being said.  So, yes, ALL Lives Matter.  I'm not coming off this, period.

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One of the most unpleasant people on this site. Hopefully she keeps acting deranged enough to get herself banned - it's honestly more tolerable than her usual stance of pseudointellectual ironic detachment.

Should I have actively wished for you to have been unable to remain in the United States in order for you to complete your Doctorate?

I don't wish the kind of harm or bad things you wish for her on anyone.  A poster was sanctioned for telling you to "Enjoy France!".  What sort of sanction should come to you for wishing that fhtagn acts more deranged?

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Tbh North Carolina Yankee you seem blaming “ identitarian pressure groups” for the simply fact that society has changed. The circumstances that allowed the New Deal coalition to be built don’t exist anymore. The fact of the matter is in the year 2021 democrats leadership can’t just cover their eyes and ears when another video is posted of a cop shooting another unarmed black man or another academic study shows that our for profit judicial system is built on discrimination against POC like they did in the past. Nor can they just shove trans people back into the closet. The fact of the matter a lot of the “woke” drama we deal with today is because this is the first true time that alot of once disenfranchised groups have a ability to speak out like they couldn’t in the past and there is no way around that

That a group is speaking out now that hasn't spoken out in the past does not mean that their point is valid or that their demands are reasonable.  Their points need to be examined and their demands need to be evaluated for what they are.

As for covering their eyes, are the rest of us to cover our eyes to a black man (let's call him, say, Jacob Blake) with a legitimate warrant for a sex offense who WAS armed actively resist a lawful arrest on a warrant?  Should we "empower" felony fugitives with the right to resist arrest and the right to a fair fight when police attempt to lawfully capture them?  What is the impact on Public Safety if Law Enforcement allows persons to actively resist arrest?  Does that justify burning down large chunks of Kenosha, WI?  Should we empower them to, say, avoid a lawful arrest by permitting them to take an Officer's taser and fire it at them like, say, Rayshard Brooks?  If we don't allow them to do so, then tell me if there will be enough Wendy's Restaurants to burn down in order to satisfy the angry desires of Mobs?  If police knock on my door and I shoot first, will I be excused as, say, Breonna Taylor's live-in boyrfriend was, or will I be charged with my significant other's death for providing the spark for the carnage?

It's fine and good that everyone has the right to speak.  None of that should mean that the arguments made by those who one would argue have been "previously silent" or "previously silenced" automatically have merit.

All Lives Matter.  Equally.

And fhtagn's life matters as well.  As much as the life of any other poster.  And the posting of others ought to, at a minimum, reflect that equality, for her and for every other poster.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

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HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

Really good guys don't suggest others check out for good.

I will be honest as well:  People who aggressively trash me are HPs in my book.  That's been Badger.  People who stand up for me when I'm unfairly attacked are FFs in my book.  That's fhtagn.  That, too, is not even close.  Badger's been the Forum Bully, and he gets no sanction.  fhtagn supposedly goes "bats--- crazy" and gets a sanction because lots of Red avatars don't like it and report her.  Badger is a Bully Recidivist, and few blue avatars (other than myself) report him.  Then when the disparate sanctions come, its because one party has more reported posts, etc.  Well of course.

When I see Badger (for his bullying) or ProudModerate2 (for his constant trolling of me) receive some kind of meaningful sanction, I'll be convinced.  R. P. McM?  If he were a Republican he'd be gone last year.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

HP

I wonder if you think the same of Badger.

When people are dumpng on me in an organized rat pack, and in ways that violate the ToS, fhtagn has stood up for me openly; she has not chosen to "not get down to their level".  I appreciate that.  If there's one thing I'm going to do on this Forum, t's stand up for people who stood up for me when the chips are down for them.

Since you asked, no, I voted FF in the opinion of poll for Badger (side note: I posted my HP vote in this thread b/c if you’re gonna vote HP, then it’s kinda cowardly to just hide behind the poll imo).  Frankly, that one is not even a close call; Badger’s a really good guy.

Really good guys don't suggest others check out for good.

I will be honest as well:  People who aggressively trash me are HPs in my book.  That's been Badger.  People who stand up for me when I'm unfairly attacked are FFs in my book.  That's fhtagn.  That, too, is not even close.  Badger's been the Forum Bully, and he gets no sanction.  fhtagn supposedly goes "bats--- crazy" and gets a sanction because lots of Red avatars don't like it and report her.  Badger is a Bully Recidivist, and few blue avatars (other than myself) report him.  Then when the disparate sanctions come, its because one party has more reported posts, etc.  Well of course.

When I see Badger (for his bullying) or ProudModerate2 (for his constant trolling of me) receive some kind of meaningful sanction, I'll be convinced.  R. P. McM?  If he were a Republican he'd be gone last year.

I fundamentally disagree with your characterization of Badger as “the forum bully.”  With all due respect, while I know you wouldn’t say that unless you believed it; I just don’t agree with you on that one.  He made a pretty awful post three years ago, but he’s sincerely and repeatedly apologized.  

Fhtagn has been bullying him with an awful smear campaign for years now and while that’s no excuse for the post Badger made on ADD (as Badger is always the first to admit), I’m not going to judge someone by the worst post they ever made (especially when they’ve spent over a year apologizing for it and it doesn’t reflect their usual behavior).  Even really good people make mistakes sometimes.  That’s what happened with the AAD post; it doesn’t change the fact that Badger’s a good person whom I am proud to call a friend.

And, yet, if I were to make such a post, I'd be not only judged by it; I'd be run off the forum for it. 

fhtagn is also someone who has actively stood up for me when others, including Badger, were piling on, and others were maintaining a "dignified silence" (something I won't maintain when people who have stood up for me are being dumped on).  People ought to know that, just in case there wondering why I'm making this such a big deal. 

And, yet, the people who make vile personal attacks against me, year after year, things that would invite a lawsuit in real life, get to stay, essentially unsanctioned.  IN that face of all of that, I had my ability to report posts taken from me simply because people didn't want to deal with my reporting posts that were flat out reportable.

Take away my ability to report posts.  Ban and mute people that stand up for me.  Condone and reward people that are part of the rat pack.  You will never get me to see what has just transpired is right or just, and you will certainly never get me to see this as evenhanded.  In truth, there are some on your moderating team that view every personal attack on me that violates the ToS as, somehow, something I deserve.