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Fuzzy Bear
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« on: August 08, 2020, 08:23:48 AM »

He's not going to hurt God; that's not possible.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-biden-is-against-god-202649148.html

Donald Trump tends to blather whenever he ventures into religious, spiritual, and theological topics, and he sounds ridiculous at times when he does so:

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“He’s following the radical left agenda: take away your guns, destroy your Second Amendment, no religion, no anything, hurt the Bible, hurt God,” Trump said during a campaign visit to Ohio. “He’s against God, he’s against guns.”

This is an example of Trump's "unadorned speech".  It sounds like the reply of the "Man On The Street" in a place like Staten Island or The Villages in Florida, some ordinary guy with a high school education who just got a mic put under his nose and was asked, "What do you think of Joe Biden?".  Someone who goes to church but isn't theologically sophisticated.  It's easy to dismiss people like this and it's easy to laugh at a major politician who speaks like this.

But in this case, Trump is entirely right.  Biden IS against God (or, at a minimum, appears to be)  Biden doesn't think he is, and I suspect he really doesn't mean to be, but there is no evidence whatsoever of where Joe Biden ever rejected a political position he's taken solely because in prayer and meditating on God's Word, he chose to align himself with Scripture rather than the Democratic Party.  Indeed, his position over the years on abortion and on family has taken on greater distance from his chosen church (the Roman Catholic church).  If anyone thinks I'm full of crap, please explain to me ways in which Biden has become more in line with Scripture, or even Catholic Church tradition over time.

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“Joe Biden’s faith is at the core of who he is: He’s lived it with dignity his entire life, and it’s been a source of strength and comfort in times of extreme hardship,” Biden spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement. “Donald Trump is the only president in our history to have tear-gassed peaceful Americans and thrown a priest out of his church just so he could profane it — and a Bible — for his own cynical optics as he sought to tear our nation apart at a moment of crisis and pain.”

The comment about tear gassing "peaceful Americans" is a lie.  Biden knows it, but doesn't repudiate it.  "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."  Joe might do well to start by correcting the statements of his own hired mouthpiece.  More to the point:  The idea that Joe Biden's faith is "at the core of who he is" is laughable.  This is not being judgmental, but it is a statement that points out fact of Biden's life that are true.

Biden identifies as a Roman Catholic, yet he's denied communion by Catholic priests for his stance on abortion:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-on-being-denied-communion-im-a-practicing-catholic-i-practice-my-faith

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"Sadly, this past Sunday, I had to refuse Holy Communion to former Vice President Joe Biden," Rev. Robert Morey said in a statement on Monday. "Holy Communion signifies we are one with God, each other and the Church. Our actions should reflect that. Any public figure (emphasis added) who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching. As a priest, it is my responsibility to minister to those souls entrusted to my care, and I must do so even in the most difficult situations. I will keep Mr. Biden in my prayers."

Now I'm not a Roman Catholic, and my church would not deny communion to Biden if he came to Church.  Holy Communion takes on different meaning for Catholics based on the Doctrine of Transubstantiation.  That being said, it's a little hard to believe that “Joe Biden’s faith is at the core of who he is: He’s lived it with dignity his entire life, and it’s been a source of strength and comfort in times of extreme hardship.” when his political positions place him in the position where priests of his own Church deny him Communion.  Would a man who's faith was as important to him as Joe Biden's mouthpiece says Biden's faith is be in a position where he was denied Communion for breaking with the church on the issue of abortion, a core issue of the Roman Catholic Church?

Someone who is a man of faith ought to manifest their faith in the form of dissenting from the orthodoxy of their political party at some point.  When has Biden done that?  He has chosen the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party over the orthodoxy of the Roman Catholic Church whenever the two came in conflict.  I'd like to see examples of where this was not so.  Rep. Tony Hall (D-OH) was a Born Again Christian and a pro-life liberal; the most massive FF in Congress, and the same coudl be said of Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), Democrats who, at heart, I am most like, politically.  Neither of these men would be welcome to run as Democrats today.  They were examples of what Biden's spokesperson is talking about.  Rep. Jim Bunn (R-OR) voted against the 1995 Welfare Reform bill because he believed it would encourage abortion, a greater evil.  Bunn would take some flak, but he'd be more welcome today as a Republican than Hall and Stupak would be welcome as Democrats, and that's sad.
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Fuzzy Bear
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2020, 01:06:21 PM »

I didn't know mere mortals can "hurt" God.

The sinful acts of man do break God's heart.
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