Was Hillary Clinton a victim of sexism

[Fuzzy Bear]

No, she was a victim of her own bad campaign. Why would people vote for someone when she calls them a basket of deplorables?

This, plus there are more female voters than male voters.

It's a little hard to consider someone a victim of "sexism" when a mere 18 years earlier, she was facilitating a whispering campaign against women accusing her husband of all sorts of sexual misconduct as a combination of "nuts and sluts".  It makes it a little hard when, 18 years later, you come out with a statement of how all women presenting themselves as victims should be believed, and believed pretty much unconditionally.  It didn't help Hillary when people actually brought this up during the campaign.

As Hillary Clinton is less able to take responsibility for her own shortcomings than Donald Trump is (and that's really saying something), her snatching defeat from the jaws of victory shouldn't shock anyone.

[Fuzzy Bear]

This, plus there are more female voters than male voters.

Women can also participate in sexism.

It's a little hard to consider someone a victim of "sexism" when a mere 18 years earlier, she was facilitating a whispering campaign against women accusing her husband of all sorts of sexual misconduct as a combination of "nuts and sluts".  It makes it a little hard when, 18 years later, you come out with a statement of how all women presenting themselves as victims should be believed, and believed pretty much unconditionally.  It didn't help Hillary when people actually brought this up during the campaign.

This has nothing to do with the original question of "was Hillary a victim of sexism." History isn't zero sum.

Hillary's being female was a plus.  An unqualfied plus.  And she squandered it with her own persona, which is rather nauseating and self-absorbed. 

"Buh my Trump!"  Trump was seen as giving up benefits to himself for the sake of his country by running for President.  How true this is can certainly be debated, but that narrative has some credibility and certainly got some traction.  Hillary's self-absorption is a fact of her life; it's always about HER in her mind, and it's always HER turn.  This is a narrative that she fostered, consciously and unconsciously, and it's not something that has helped her.  People don't care that it's HER turn; they wonder when THEIR turn is coming. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

Hillary's being female was a plus.  An unqualfied plus. 

Citation needed.

And she squandered it with her own persona, which is rather nauseating and self-absorbed.

"Buh my Trump!"  Trump was seen as giving up benefits to himself for the sake of his country by running for President.  How true this is can certainly be debated, but that narrative has some credibility and certainly got some traction. Hillary's self-absorption is a fact of her life; it's always about HER in her mind, and it's always HER turn.  This is a narrative that she fostered, consciously and unconsciously, and it's not something that has helped her.  People don't care that it's HER turn; they wonder when THEIR turn is coming. 

Penalizing women and rewarding men for trying to fulfill personal ambition (i.e., embracing a "persona") is such a well documented misogynistic phenomenon that at this point it's basically a trope. Good god Fuzzy you're proving the point and you're not even realizing it.

Whatever Trump said, or didn't say, in the 2016 campaign, he didn't say "It's my turn!".  That's an appeal that is repulsive to most Americans when it comes to their political leaders because it smacks of monarchy and not a republican form of government. 

Sexism didn't do Hillary in.  Elitism did.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Hillary's being female was a plus.  An unqualfied plus. 

Citation needed.

And she squandered it with her own persona, which is rather nauseating and self-absorbed.

"Buh my Trump!"  Trump was seen as giving up benefits to himself for the sake of his country by running for President.  How true this is can certainly be debated, but that narrative has some credibility and certainly got some traction. Hillary's self-absorption is a fact of her life; it's always about HER in her mind, and it's always HER turn.  This is a narrative that she fostered, consciously and unconsciously, and it's not something that has helped her.  People don't care that it's HER turn; they wonder when THEIR turn is coming. 

Penalizing women and rewarding men for trying to fulfill personal ambition (i.e., embracing a "persona") is such a well documented misogynistic phenomenon that at this point it's basically a trope. Good god Fuzzy you're proving the point and you're not even realizing it.

Whatever Trump said, or didn't say, in the 2016 campaign, he didn't say "It's my turn!".  That's an appeal that is repulsive to most Americans when it comes to their political leaders because it smacks of monarchy and not a republican form of government. 

Sexism didn't do Hillary in.  Elitism did.

Hillary was never running on "it's my turn!" That's a smear that was able to stick because society, at large, still does not know how to process a woman seeking higher leadership positions and not administering to a caretaker/supporter role. It wasn't substantiated by anything other than people's pre-existing conceptions of her. Nobody is arguing that Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden is running a 2020 platform based on "it's my turn," despite being in very similar positions.

I think there is real merit to the argument that (perceived) elitism was what did Hillary in. But denying any influence of misogyny is laughable.

Is it "misogyny" to suggest that her "Girl Power" campaign (e. g. the "Fight Song" ad) was poorly received?  That her constant references to "the condition of women and girls" was insulting to the parents of boys (not to mention that the condition of boys in America has deteriorated significantly but seems to never get a peep of interest from, truthfully, either major party)?