The BlueSwan Basement of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VIII

[Fuzzy Bear]

The only thing Clinton did wrong was thinking with the head between his legs instead of the one above his neck. Monica Lewinsky was a narcissistic bimbo who pursued Clinton relentlessly because he was the President. Bill Clinton was a conquest to Monica Lewinsky. Clinton obviously should have declined her advances, but Monica Lewinsky was a star-struck, naive bimbo who just wanted to fulfill her fantasy of banging the President. It wouldn't have mattered if it was Clinton, George Bush or even Bob Dole in the Oval Office, the desire would have been the same. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

I voted no. The republicans will narrowly hold on to the house by around 5-10 seats. You'll all look foolish after the election. Mark my words.

How is that any worse than what you see in the Wisconsin threads with the terrifying overconfidence about Walker's downfall?

Walker was the one who should have been terrified.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I've just discovered these two posters' entire contributions to the forum distilled into one sentence each within the same quote chain:

it's amazing how the Democratic and Republican bases have become so divided over this incident.

I am grateful for President Trump weighing in on this.

Whenever you put one of my posts here, I am ever more convinced that I am on the right track.

[Fuzzy Bear]

https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087712015060209664?s=20
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087786934624272384?s=2

Let’s not ignore who put such poisonous ideas in these children’s heads. After all, would one have found Catholic boys saying these things a hundred years? Perish the thought! But the liberals’ cherished sexual revolution has infected these children’s minds (as it has infected so much else in our once great civilization), and now those same liberals have the arrogance to blame these boys for being victims of social decay. Sad! What else can one say?

There was one kid that said what they said, and he wasn't a Covington Catholic student.  He wasn't one of the "MAGA Kids".

Landslide Lyndon isn't honest enough to mention that, so honest folks have to clean up his dishonest garbage.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Somebody has 0 irony/troll detection. They call Computer89 beep boop, but maybe it's more applicable to you

No, this thread was creating to troll and mock me, while ignoring the hackish predictions of Solid4096 and absurd posts of other users as I outlined above, also Yellowhammer is a literal neo-Confederats, I'm sure that there are still absurd things that he has posted

Given who's doing much of this, you should consider it an honor. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fuzzy Bear got what he wants. Fame. Attention. He's an Atlas superstar. He'll be on Atlas for the rest of his life, much in the way Bushie (another famous Atlas member from the South) was. Ironically, Bushie was exiled, not by a overly sensitive mod, but by himself when he became delusional and when discussing his personal life was banned. Unlike Fuzzy, Bushie had a far more substantive career in and out of Atlas life, and could talk to those on the other side of the aisle in ways Fuzzy can only dream of.  

Of course the rude posts should be investigated and people should be prosecuted if they make them. As should those who make rude posts against Yellowhammer or Joe Republic. To blame Texasgurl for the rude posts themselves, however, is ridiculous. This is the forum we live in. Fuzzy worked to become an Atlas superstar, and eats up the attention; the free attention he gets in the mod cave makes him the big deal he's actively tried to be. I would ask the OP to stop being silly by blaming Texasgurl for all the kooks of Atlas, let alone constipation and diarrhea, but I've purposed in my heart not to ask the impossible and expect a reasonable perspective from the perpetually unreasonable.  

[Fuzzy Bear]

Joe Biden - His past opposition to busing

Pete Buttigieg - He took a meeting with Al Sharpton

Kamala Harris - I get the distinct sense that she has no genuine ideological beliefs and will say anything to get a vote, even compared to the average Presidential candidate

Beto O'Rourke - What little I've seen about his foreign policy views has been very troubling

Elizabeth Warren - The whole DNA test thing showed horrible judgement

Bernie Sanders - He's been actively pandering to many of the worst people and groups within the Democratic Party (aside from the corporatists and the anti-vaxxers whom he admittedly doesn't pander to) such as the anti-Semitic left, the "teh Evulz neo-LIEburals framed Trump and Putin" crowd, the misogynists within the Democratic Party, whacktivists who care more about personality cults than they do about policy, the isolationists, and people who believe we should throw minorities under the bus because talking about social issues might upset Trump's base.  There's admittedly a lot to like about Sanders...which makes all the really bad stuff about him that much more disappointing (and frustrating).

Cory Booker: His egomania really gets on my nerves.  

I'm not a fan of Joe anymore due to recent comments, but are you really gonna damn a guy for votes he made almost 50 years ago - literally a lifetime ago?

I mean, Jimmy Carter made a deal with the devil when running for Governor and pandered to racists. We know Jimmy Carter wasn't himself a racist. Sometimes you gotta make a deal with the devil to get a just end. And again, Joe's comments were longer ago than most of the people on this board have been alive.

And sometimes when you shake hands with the devil, you end up on the wrong side of history.  Joe Biden had a chance to be a leader and instead he threw African-Americans under the bus, so to speak, because he felt he needed racists votes more, so spare me the lecture.

I've never bought into the "wrong side of history" argument. Joe Biden did what he had to to be elected, same with any politician. You don't damn someone for a mistake they made a lifetime ago.

How is this absurd and ignorant, busing was not particularly popular among the general public, and it would be political suicide for a southern politician to support it. If Biden was from New York or California or Illinois, this is a much more valid argument. But for this argument of votes 50 years ago, Robert Byrd was literally a Klansman in his past, yet Democrats are overjoyed that he provided the crucial 60th vote on Obamacare, remove him, and there is no Obamacare. So, this is not really absurd and ignorant.

The idea that people running for the highest office in the land should automatically given a pass for doing horrible things just because they happened a long time ago is absurd and ignorant.

Biden's record on busing isn't a "horrible" thing.  The massive busing to achieve court-prescribed racial balances was a poor policy to which there were many legitimate objections to. 

Joe Biden was elected at age 29 in 1972 as one of a wave of anti-Vietnam War liberals that were elected, even as McGovern was being trounced.  The idea that he was a segregationist or a conservative Dixiecrat type is silly beyond words. 

As for Anita Hill:  Not everyone believes she's honest, and people who come out of nowhere to torpedo nominations should be received with appropriate skepticism. 

[Fuzzy Bear]

Joe Biden - His past opposition to busing

Pete Buttigieg - He took a meeting with Al Sharpton

Kamala Harris - I get the distinct sense that she has no genuine ideological beliefs and will say anything to get a vote, even compared to the average Presidential candidate

Beto O'Rourke - What little I've seen about his foreign policy views has been very troubling

Elizabeth Warren - The whole DNA test thing showed horrible judgement

Bernie Sanders - He's been actively pandering to many of the worst people and groups within the Democratic Party (aside from the corporatists and the anti-vaxxers whom he admittedly doesn't pander to) such as the anti-Semitic left, the "teh Evulz neo-LIEburals framed Trump and Putin" crowd, the misogynists within the Democratic Party, whacktivists who care more about personality cults than they do about policy, the isolationists, and people who believe we should throw minorities under the bus because talking about social issues might upset Trump's base.  There's admittedly a lot to like about Sanders...which makes all the really bad stuff about him that much more disappointing (and frustrating).

Cory Booker: His egomania really gets on my nerves.  

I'm not a fan of Joe anymore due to recent comments, but are you really gonna damn a guy for votes he made almost 50 years ago - literally a lifetime ago?

I mean, Jimmy Carter made a deal with the devil when running for Governor and pandered to racists. We know Jimmy Carter wasn't himself a racist. Sometimes you gotta make a deal with the devil to get a just end. And again, Joe's comments were longer ago than most of the people on this board have been alive.

And sometimes when you shake hands with the devil, you end up on the wrong side of history.  Joe Biden had a chance to be a leader and instead he threw African-Americans under the bus, so to speak, because he felt he needed racists votes more, so spare me the lecture.

I've never bought into the "wrong side of history" argument. Joe Biden did what he had to to be elected, same with any politician. You don't damn someone for a mistake they made a lifetime ago.

How is this absurd and ignorant, busing was not particularly popular among the general public, and it would be political suicide for a southern politician to support it. If Biden was from New York or California or Illinois, this is a much more valid argument. But for this argument of votes 50 years ago, Robert Byrd was literally a Klansman in his past, yet Democrats are overjoyed that he provided the crucial 60th vote on Obamacare, remove him, and there is no Obamacare. So, this is not really absurd and ignorant.

The idea that people running for the highest office in the land should automatically given a pass for doing horrible things just because they happened a long time ago is absurd and ignorant.

Biden's record on busing isn't a "horrible" thing.  The massive busing to achieve court-prescribed racial balances was a poor policy to which there were many legitimate objections to.  

Joe Biden was elected at age 29 in 1972 as one of a wave of anti-Vietnam War liberals that were elected, even as McGovern was being trounced.  The idea that he was a segregationist or a conservative Dixiecrat type is silly beyond words.  

As for Anita Hill:  Not everyone believes she's honest, and people who come out of nowhere to torpedo nominations should be received with appropriate skepticism.  

- I don’t think Biden personally has a racist bone in his body, but I think he’s proven quite willing to pander to them in the past when it suited him...which is even worse than if he were a true believer.  Is what Biden did in-and-of-itself an automatic deal breaker?  No, but it does give me very serious pause and it’s the thing I personally like least about him.  And he said some stuff that I have a real problem with such as when he called state-mandated school desegregation “[T]he most racist concept you can come up with” and when he said about busing “And I’ll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago.”  

- It’s demonstrably false that Biden couldn’t have won if he supported busing.  How do I know?  Because he ran as a pro-busing candidate when he first got elected to the Senate, upsetting the incumbent.  It was only once he was in the Senate and truly realized just how unpopular busing was among white voters that he flip-flopped on the issue.  That’s not leadership, it’s cowardice and I expect better from someone running for the highest office in the land.  And while there are legitimate criticisms that can be made regarding busing, the vast majority of the opposition was simply because racist whites didn’t want their kids going to school with African-American kids.

- My interpretation of Higgins’ post was that he was saying if someone did something bad in the 70s then we should automatically give them a pass on it today, regardless of what they did.  I find that idea kinda absurd when we’re talking about people running for President.  Does that mean we shouldn’t consider the person’s overall record?  Of course not, but things don’t cease to be relevant criticisms of Presidential candidates just because they happened a long time ago.  That’s why I put Higgins’ post in this thread.

- I’m not really sure what Anita Hill has to do with this subject

Anita Hill is one of the issues that makes Biden an HP in the eyes of some liberals here.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You'll miss it when state governments' budgets are spending more and more on healthcare, food stamps and schooling for poor children.

You'll miss it when the decline in the non-Hispanic White proportion of the country's population starts to accelerate further.

You'll miss it when poor nonwhite babies grow up and vote Democratic.

You'll miss it when Republican politicians like Scott DesJarlais and Tim Murphy are embroiled in new personal scandals because they can no longer easily just send their mistress to a local doctor to "have it taken care of."

You'll miss it when all the wind is taken out of the social conservative sails and poor white people in Kansas no longer have any reason to go to the polls to give rich people yet another tax cut.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Can both of you finking chill lol

He messed with Texas, and one never messes with Texas, friend

He didn't mess with Texas.  He messed with a Newbie with 73 posts, lol.

[Fuzzy Bear]

While whites commit more crimes overall, latinos and african americans generally commit more crimes from a proportional perspective.

This is an incredibly complicated issue.  It's an issue that is uncomfortable, and people SHOULD be uncomfortable in discussing this.  There are many, many aspects of this issue that require serious discussion by serious people who wish more equitable life outcomes for all our citizens, as well as a significant reduction in personal and national pain and anguish.

But there can be NO discussion of issues of "equality" without honestly discussing this.  This discrepancy is what drives much inequality, and much of the negative stats that were mentioned earlier.  This factor drives a great deal of the inequality in income, school suspensions, and incarceration (although I will agree that there is often crass disparity in sentencing, and that is often due to racial bias).  Until we are honest about THIS and this becomes a discussion of ALL sides of the issue, with ALL people (white, black, and all others) speaking to each side and listening to each side (without insisting that people different than them have no right to address them), then there will be no meaningful or effective mitigation to this problem, let alone an permanent solution.  This can't be an "off limits" topic, and it can't be a topic where one side is doing all the talking and other sides are insisting that the other side has no business in the discussion.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I propose a rename of this thread.

No. White people absolutely will re-elect this pedophile rapist because he espouses their racial resentment and legitimizes it.

Where's the lie though?

It's a generalized statement.  And it is a statement based on Racially-based hatred of white people from a poster who once posted "White Evangelicals are trash." 

And he's never called on this by the left.  That's the issue.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Yeah, Bevin is gone due to Mcconnell's unpopularity, but Senate race is Safe R

Bevin will definitely lose because Turtleman is unpopular, but Turtleman himself is Safe. Makes perfect sense.

Bevin will lose because Bevin, himself is unpopular. 

(Now that I've said this, we can copy all of this and put in on the Virginia Society for the Preservation of High Quality Posts thread.)

[Fuzzy Bear]

I think the fate of a VP nominee depends entirely on the candidate.

If Pence is conciliatory, and nominates someone non-controversial, like Romney, or Charlie Baker, then I think they sail to confirmation.

If he tries to rev up the base, and nominates a firebrand like Sen. Cotton, then I think Pelosi essentially pocket vetos the choice.

I don't know about Cotton's politics, but there's nothing moderate about his persona. 

He's a guy who scares me.  He strikes me as America's Leading Warmonger.

I think there are far more controversial Republicans than Cotton, lol. Even in the current Senate, I personally believe he's slightly more moderate than the average Republican Senator, if only because he's damn smart and has served really honorably in the military, which makes him next to impossible to extort, unlike imbeciles like Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell. I think a person like Susan Collins is FAR more dangerous than Cotton will ever be.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Church is a more essential service than a grocery store. He should fight this to the death

It's more essential than a Medical Marijuana facility or an Abortion Clinic.

[Fuzzy Bear]

How are there Christians who believe this?