Trump demanded fat employees be fired

[Fuzzy Bear]

And Hillary can't seal the deal against this joke? Any decent Democratic candidate would be running up the score by now, polarization or no polarization.

Even if it's a sleaze-a-thon (and it's becoming one), the 800 lb gorilla in the room is how Hillary worked to discredit the women who were Bill's accusers.  Hillary DOESN'T want a discussion of this, because if Miss Universe or Trump's employees are front and center onstage, then Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and Gennifer Flowers are onstage as well. 

Broaddrick and Willey's accusation are the most deadly; they involve acts of forcible sexual assault by Bill Clinton.  If we're to believe all this negativity about Trump's behavior (and I do believe much of it is true), they why are we disbelieving Broaddrick and Willey?  Is it the special dispensation that comes with a red Atlas avatar?

If the campaign is going to be about "How Trump Treats Women", Hillary is in for a nasty surprise.  And a deserved surprise.  Juanita Broadderick and Kathleen Willey are no less entitled to restorative justice than Miss Universe from the Clintons.  Arguably, they are MORE entitled, as the alleged wrongs involve actual sexual felonies, and are more severe than just chauvinistic behavior and insults.

When my Grandmother was 16 years old, she went to work in an office.  She graduated "grammar school" and then went to business school, and then got a job in an office.  One day, the boss called her in.  He had a picture of his family on his desk, but, as my Grandmother told me disgustedly, "He wanted me to sit on his LAP!".  She pointed out that he was married; the boss shrugged it off.  She left the office and never returned to that job (which her struggling family needed).  This was in something like 1913 in NY City.  My Grandmother had something in common with Miss Universe.  She had more in common with Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick.  I must say that I am grateful that my Grandmother, a truly amazing person, did not have to live to see the spectacle of the 2016 Presidential election.  I am now beginning to wonder if our nation will get over this campaign in my lifetime.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Eh, I agree with him from a business perspective. Men love being around attractive women.

I'm glad that you no longer identify as a Democrat.

I don't defend Trump for his comments if he actually made them.  But I will say this:  He was in the Beauty Pageant industry.  It's all about looks and physique and shape.  Your job, as a contestant, is to maintain your off-the-charts looks and, if you are the winner, maintain that for the time you are Miss Universe, Miss Planet, Miss Northern and Southern Hemisphere, or whatever.  Chowing down on KFC and gaining weight is not doing your job.  I, personally, have no use for the idea of "beauty pageants", but the folks who go into this go into it with their eyes open and know what is expected of them, at least by the time they get to the Miss Universe level.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Eh, I agree with him from a business perspective. Men love being around attractive women.

I'm glad that you no longer identify as a Democrat.

I don't defend Trump for his comments if he actually made them.  But I will say this:  He was in the Beauty Pageant industry.  It's all about looks and physique and shape.  Your job, as a contestant, is to maintain your off-the-charts looks and, if you are the winner, maintain that for the time you are Miss Universe, Miss Planet, Miss Northern and Southern Hemisphere, or whatever.  Chowing down on KFC and gaining weight is not doing your job.  I, personally, have no use for the idea of "beauty pageants", but the folks who go into this go into it with their eyes open and know what is expected of them, at least by the time they get to the Miss Universe level.

There's a big difference between working at a golf course and being a contestant in a beauty pageant.

My daughter-in-law was hired by a Disney facility as a server.  She has lots of serving experience.  She also has issues with her teeth that affect her appearance.  She got through the interview and was hired, but after 2 days on the job, her supervisor noticed her teeth and she was let go.

Unfair?  It depends on your view of an employer's right to require "front office appearance".  With Disney, all of its employees are "Cast Members" and servers are considered "On-stage" whereas a dishwasher might be considered "Backstage".  People pay good money to be entertained at Disney and to relax at Disney; do they have a "right" to not have employees that reflect the elegance the facility is trying to project? 

Appearance matters at golf courses.  At theme parks.  At car dealerships.  At a lot of places.  Is it fair that this should matter so much?  You tell me.  I will say this:  If an employee is hired with the understanding that he/she must maintain a certain physical appearance, including height, weight, etc., is this wrong?  If it is, folks have grievances with a lot more folks than Donald Trump.

[Fuzzy Bear]

The endless spinning of everything Trump says or does by his superfans is beyond pathetic. Stop working overtime on an internet forum trying to justify an obvious sociopath's behavior. The man is a monster, and yet you people will probably still be defending him even after his loss in November.

You defend Hillary AFTER she works to actively discredit women who have alleged that Bill actually sexually assaulted them.  You defend Hillary AFTER she does this and AFTER she says that victims of domestic violence and sexual assault should be believed.  (And she EMPHATICALLY said that during this campaign.)

The only thing that's spinning is my head, trying to follow your logic.  All female victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and domestic violence who come forward should be believed.  EXCEPT for Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey, of course; they're talking about Bill Clinton, and ran into Buzzsaw Hillary when THEY came forward in the 1990s.

Two women came forth and said that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted them.

Bill Clinton denied it.

Hillary Clinton actively participated in the campaign to publicly discredit these victims.

That's the record.  I know it's hard for you to wrap your mind around it.  Bill Clinton benefitted from the presumption of the Emperor being clothed.  In his case, that was literally AND figuratively untrue.