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DC Al Fine
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« on: March 18, 2015, 11:09:28 AM »

The USA would be so much better if Baptists/Pentecostals converted to Mainline denominations.

I'd rather they fix their own denominations. Reduction in this country's religious diversity doesn't strike me as beneficial.

Should be the other way around. For all my issues with the evangelicals, I can at least be reasonably certain they believe in the resurrection, which is more than I can say about my local mainlines.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2015, 11:10:44 AM »

I expect we'll see a trickle of churches jump to my denomination (PCA) as per usual. I'm always amazed at the number of conservative congregations still in mainline churches.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 08:07:44 PM »

The USA would be so much better if Baptists/Pentecostals converted to Mainline denominations.

I'd rather they fix their own denominations. Reduction in this country's religious diversity doesn't strike me as beneficial.

Should be the other way around. For all my issues with the evangelicals, I can at least be reasonably certain they believe in the resurrection, which is more than I can say about my local mainlines.

Of course. The mainlines need to fix our own, mostly (but not entirely) separate problems too. A few years back Katherine Jefferts Schori delivered an Easter message that at no point mentioned Jesus. That's flat-out inexcusable.

That's better than Canada. The United Church won't even defrock atheists Roll Eyes
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 08:20:19 PM »

The USA would be so much better if Baptists/Pentecostals converted to Mainline denominations.

I'd rather they fix their own denominations. Reduction in this country's religious diversity doesn't strike me as beneficial.

Baptists/Pentecostals tend to be big on "Believe or you'll go to hell" and (especially Southern Baptists) have a history of misogyny, racism, and homophobia.

I don't want a "diversity" of opinions if a lot of them are bad for the human race. 

I suppose Northern Baptists and some Black Pentecostal churches are better, but most are inherently regressive (going way back, not just during the recent culture wars) and the mainlines have almost always been on the right side of history.  So it would be great if more could shift to the mainlines.

There's a lot more diversity on both sides of the aisle than you think. Also are you using the media or Atlas definitions of evangelical vs. mainline?
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 09:18:30 PM »

Here's a real gem from a PCUSA minister last week.

Whatever the PCUSA's beliefs on gay marriage might be, I would hope they could come to a firm conclusion on whether or not Jesus was in fact a historical figure.

To take a page from Flannery O'Connor "If the resurrection is just a symbol, to hell with it"
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