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Author Topic: SB 2018-226: I Can't Believe It's More Dumb Regulations Repeal Act (Passed)  (Read 1152 times)
Mr. Reactionary
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« on: May 29, 2018, 08:51:48 PM »
« edited: June 09, 2018, 03:22:16 PM by Mr. Reactionary »
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 06:11:57 AM »
Quote from: Trumpsucks!!! on May 31, 2018, 03:03:01 AM
exactly, small government is an government that has shown not to work anywhere(Somalia, Haiti, Central African republic, etc) it has ever been tried. Some of these regulations maybe stupid but there's a few that probably shouldn't be repealed and the goal should never be towards being an anarchy.

Anarchy = no laws dictating the shape of meatloaf sold wholesale. Roll Eyes


I'll open the vote on the Striker 12 tonight.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 12:21:50 PM »
Quote from: WELLS. on May 31, 2018, 08:01:20 AM
Also what is wrong with labelling guns destructive? Though there is probably more there. I want to hear Mr. R's side of this.

I will expand upon this tonight, but "destructive device" has a specific legal definition under the National Firearms Act and is usually reserved for hand grenades or calibers larger than .50. Such weapons are regulated at least as stringently if not more so, than machine guns. ATF issued a guidance letter declaring that these 3 shotguns were not shotguns but rather "destructive devices" in 1994 so as to significantly curtail their marketability. This was around the same time the assault weapon ban passed congress, and one of the ATF arguments was that these shotguns should be singled out because they have similar cosmetic features as assault weapons such as pistol grips and foregrips.

As originally written, this bill would only rescind those 1994 ATF determination letters, which means those shotguns would still be subject to NFA regs, including for minimum length and who you are prohibited from selling one to. In other words, this would remove 3 types of semiautomatic shotguns from the list of what is effectively military ordinance and treat them the same as all other semiautomatic shotguns.
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2018, 04:35:01 PM »
Quote from: Not Senator Not Madigan on May 31, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
So these shotguns are only cosmetically similar to assault weapons?  Not similar in actual caliber and capability?

So the Striker interestingly enough has a rotating cylinder like a revolver, so it is semiautomatic (like many normal shotguns) but since its a cylinder mechanism it is less complex than those non-DD semiautomatic shotguns that use expelled gas. Unlike rifles which fire a single metal slug, shotguns fire packets of tiny pellets so comparing ammunition is difficult.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 06:03:31 AM »
I forgot. Voting on the amendment is now open.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2018, 01:21:58 PM »
Nay
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 09:48:43 PM »
Amendment fails. 1-3-1; 1 NV.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 09:59:28 PM »
I request unanimous consent to proceed to a final vote on this bill. 24 hrs to object.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2018, 06:02:27 AM »
Final vote now open lasting 72 hours or until 24 hours after this has enough votes to pass or fail, whichever is soonest.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2018, 11:38:06 AM »
Aye
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2018, 12:13:07 PM »
24 hr warning
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2018, 03:18:13 PM »
Bill passes 6-0-0.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2018, 03:21:54 PM »
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