Multiple Victims Reported Shot In San Bernardino

[Mr. Reactionary]

Dont try to trivialize random tweets from people on the internet?

What I'm suggesting is that you are a hack trying to spin a terrorist attack by picking out random internet quotes.

Edit: Im actually giving you too much credit because you havent even provided any evidence

Not worth engaging dude ... they're turning it into a race thing.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Dont try to trivialize random tweets from people on the internet?

What I'm suggesting is that you are a hack trying to spin a terrorist attack by picking out random internet quotes.

Edit: Im actually giving you too much credit because you havent even provided any evidence

Not worth engaging dude ... they're turning it into a race thing.

It's your side that wants to turn this into "OMG ISIS" before we even know all the facts and what motivated this attack. Not that this couldn't be terrorism inspired by ISIS or similar groups, but the target just seems odd. Regardless of what the motive ultimately turns out to be, I predict Trump or some other Republican will be out there calling for more Muslims to be targeted/registered or perhaps there might even be a call for a "final solution".

I did not and still have not speculated on motive, as opposed to the multiple "OMG white republican terrorist." "I hope he's a white christian terrorist"

[Mr. Reactionary]

No one has ever damn well said there are no terrorists that are Muslims. The problem has always been there are people who generalize all Muslims for what an individual does.

At this point, it looks like this was a workplace shooting, so any argument that it was an attack by ISIS is a stretch.

Yeah just like the Fort Hood attack was "workplace violence"

The term would be yes, not "yeah". From what we know about this case, there was so sort of dispute at a holiday party and the shooter came back with a gun. That sounds like a workplace shooting, not an attack by ISIS.

It was clearly premeditated.  You think he went home, made a pipe bomb in an hour, and came back to work?  They found thousands of rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs in his house! This wasn't just a spur of the moment thing, you crazy.   And its already been confirmed he was radicalized, stop grasping at straws

Check your privilege. This wasn't some evil white Christian terrorist. This poor man was likely harassed at work because of structural racism. And also guns.

[Mr. Reactionary]

I know it's unfounded.  The point is that the Right has basically won this shooting, simply by virtue of the shooters' identities.  Their actual beliefs and motives are irrelevant beyond that.

Nobody "won". This shouldn't be a game. The only implication I get of a side "winning" is that the other side can no longer easily use this tragedy as a political token to yell about gun control and planned parenthood. This concept of "winning" is why I avoid both parties.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Nobody won this shooting. But if you're talking about the debate, yes the Right won, but they didn't win it because they were Muslims, or because whether they were radicalised or not, or whether it was work place violence (I'm sure a lot of people have homemade bombs lying in the basement, they can use in a moment of rage).

No the reason they won the debate here on uselectionatlas, was because the "Left" (I personal do not find being pro-gun control to be left, I just find it sane) took the low road from the start, only to find their point undercut by the fact that this wasn't a WASP gun nut, of course you people haven't helped by keep digging, the moral high point is lost, and the smart thing to do would be to let the other side talk until someone said something disgusting enough, that you could hope to take the moral high ground again, but instead you keep digging and digging.

When the last Paris terror attack happened, I was shocked and was 90+% sure Muslim terrorist was behind it, but I didn't start moronic attacks on Muslims, instead I suggested we waited with that discussion, until there was more facts on the ground (post below), because I remembered Breivik.

Very well said. There are evil terrorists of all ideologies and colors. Whenever any side jumps to stupid conclusions for political reasons, they cheapen the actual tragedy.