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Orion0
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« on: October 28, 2012, 11:53:44 AM »

This is actually rather good. Slight leads in places like MN, terrible deficits in places like Missouri and across the South.

I'm starting to think Romney might have to win the PV by 3-4% (Of course this statement will probably look silly when all the votes are in next week...it's not a very probable thing....but this year is crazy) to win the Electoral College.

That's just frightening. So Romney might win 52-47 yet still lose.

Anyone hoping for "sweet payback" to show that America is "not a democracy" is sick and despicable. Wishing for a failure in the system is terrible, and despite the recent brush with it in 2000 highly improbable again. If Romney is up 5% nationally, the swing states will fall, and potentially other unexpected ones as well. Remember Indiana 2008? Anyone seriously thinking Romney would lose the electoral college while winning the pv by 4 or 5 is kidding themselves.
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Orion0
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 12:06:13 PM »

Anyone hoping for "sweet payback" to show that America is "not a democracy" is sick and despicable. Wishing for a failure in the system is terrible, and despite the recent brush with it in 2000 highly improbable again. If Romney is up 5% nationally, the swing states will fall, and potentially other unexpected ones as well. Remember Indiana 2008? Anyone seriously thinking Romney would lose the electoral college while winning the pv by 4 or 5 is kidding themselves.

The "republic, not a democracy" claim is something that many Republicans have been saying for a while, it's not my idea. It's absurd and doesn't make sense, but what else is new?

And if you want to keep that possibility from happening, then change the system. Don't just hope for there not to be a "system failure". Not very difficult. I have the funny feeling, though, that Republicans would also (suddenly and certainly by total coincidence!) become fans of abandoning the Electoral College if this were to actually happen.



I was hoping my sick and despicable comment would arouse its intended target. Look, the electoral college has its faults, but definitely has its uses as well. And while if a split did happen again, it might prompt a change, I just can't see it happening. Both parties concede they have certain advantages through the electoral college. If it was solely pv this year Obama is out, period. so I think it's amusing that dems so much want a pv system in place.. Because of 2000? Yes 2000 was insane, unprecedented, and beyond convoluted, but it isn't happening like that again, ever.
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