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« on: October 15, 2012, 02:54:59 PM »

Ron Paul... If this is his blaze of glory then it's a pretty sad sight. IMO you either have an R by your name and vote accordingly, or you're an independent (or d obviously). Clearly not happy with the way the repub party going he's created a world where everything but himself is illegitimate. Not a way to win elections, and certainly not a way to win friends, but enough to win support of others who view the world and its various power structures as illegitimate. Time to bury this dead horse and move on, Ron Paul is over. And this coming from an admitted libertarian. I don't have much hope for his offspring either despite believing that the republican party will become more libertarian as time goes on.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 05:14:28 PM »

What? The Republican Party created a world where everyone else is illegitimate, not Ron Paul. If anything, the so called "cult" of Ron Paul is a reaction to the cult of Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

The fact that you put the "cult" of Ron Paul on par with actual presidents Bush Obama and Clinton speaks to this delusion. Paul was only and will always be a second rate candidate for either the libertarian cause or the repub banner. case closed.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 05:30:45 PM »

What? The Republican Party created a world where everyone else is illegitimate, not Ron Paul. If anything, the so called "cult" of Ron Paul is a reaction to the cult of Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

The fact that you put the "cult" of Ron Paul on par with actual presidents Bush Obama and Clinton speaks to this delusion. Paul was only and will always be a second rate candidate for either the libertarian cause or the repub banner. case closed.
A cult of personality around a president who's a war criminal, eg, is more legitimate than another, non war criminal, national politician just because he hasn't been specifically elected President? I'm not sure I buy that. All cults of personality are equally bad ideas, and they are based in ideas and beliefs, and not in the persons power ipso facto.

That said, I think you're probably just kinda butthurt that Ron Paul's supporters aren't as weak-spined as everyone else (in both parties) that just allow their views to be chosen for them by party leaders.

No it is much more pragmatic than something to do with their personality traits. In my view if you're affiliated with a cause, put your name next to it, campaign on it even, then you have to also work within the framework which is provided by that organization. Paul supporters have shown time and again a disregard for the framework provided and contempt for those who disagree. That is not how I believe they should be handling themselves. If you want a more libertarian repub party then work within that organization and its framework absolutely. If you feel you cannot work with those and show a disregard for their rules then by all means there is a libertarian party to go to, or found a new party if you're so ideologically opposed to those you claim as "team members." as my grandma used to say you can't have one foot in the pool and another on the ice rink. pick what you want to do/be and just make it happen, cause this whole I'm for but not, I support but don't, is cheap jockeying for attention and thoroughly unproductive.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 07:19:13 PM »

Can't debate with logic so an attack on someone's grandma ensues from a Ron Paul supporter. I'd say I'm shocked but im not. my belief that a typical Ron Paul supporter is a poorly informed ideologue with an identity crisis grows stronger.
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