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Actually, this is a great idea, considering how much people hate it when I post in the other threads.  Still, I don't see why I can't post there if you guys all can.

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Let's start off with a good post, followed by an absurd, ignorant, and bad post:

Sure. Haven't you seen the attack ads utilizing old Atlas posts?

Let me tell you folks the story about a man who killed a teenage boy once.  He did it with a gun and there was nobody there to stop him.  He has a history of racism, bigotry, and discrimination and a very well established history of violence.  And not only that, but he got away with it.

Is this George Zimmerman I'm talking about?  No, it's Uncle Sam.  And not only has he done it once, he's done it many times over.

Where's your f***ing outrage over that?

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You couldn't pay me to vote for that bigot Santorum.

Walt Disney 67%
 You hate Jews but love mice, ducks, and anthropomorphic dogs which people don't seem to know is actually a dog.

The second one is especially bad considering that Walt Disney was afraid of mice IRL.

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So in other words the most represented denomination in Whittier is the Seventh-day Adventists, go figure. Wonder if that makes Oldiesfreak think of us a bit more highly despite how we voted for Al Franken. I'll say this, the Hispanic SDAs at least seem like very friendly people, they even leave their doors open during their services. One Saturday night I was playing Ingress (the church is a key portal in the area) and could hear it, Battle Hymn of the Republic in Spanish.

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A bad post with an awesome comeback:

No such thing as a freedom religion. By definition, freedom and religion are opposing forces.

Religion frees us from a lot of things like liberals.

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Evil extreme bigot, who ironically enough would have been right at home in the second Klan (possibly too extremist for them).  I might add, a rather more pertinent issue in New York City at the time.

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Evil extreme bigot, who ironically enough would have been right at home in the second Klan (possibly too extremist for them).  I might add, a rather more pertinent issue in New York City at the time.

Is this meant to be a good, absurd, or bad post? I ask since it seems to be a post of possible accuracy and certainly nothing I'd got out of my way to call out if it wasn't.

Bad.

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Springsteen/Springsteen   

Ted Nugent is a declared racist.

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Perhaps the best post I've seen on here yet:

Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't make me juvenile.

No (American)

This. The system of oppression the British Empire has been operating under for hundreds of years has gone on long past fashionability. Hopefully one day, loyal patriots in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales can shed the burden of tyranny like we in American did so long ago and join in a union of liberty.

Yes this, the fascist monarchists with their tea time, and vast riches will soon be deposed by the great people of the Isles, and when it happens, the freedom fighters of today and of days past like: Washington, Lincoln, TR, Ron Paul and Jesus will be there smiling, clothed in white robes, basking in the glorious sunlight of victory, for they will know that justice has been served. And the riches will be distributed among the poor, and a drunken feast will last for 1,000 years, and we will all scream the battle hymn of the Republic, and ride off into the eternal sunset.

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I get discouraged at times, sure. I think my party places too much of an emphasis on ideological purity and as a result, we're the leading contributor to the partisanship today in our nation.

If our leaders actually made an effort to be bi-partisan and if the voters nominated candidates who could win, we would have control of the Senate right now...maybe even the Presidency.

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Most likely the heat is gone from the enactment of Duty to Starve laws.

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Here's a deluge of good posts on Bob Byrd:

I don't know if an apology makes up for his Klan involvement or his late in life liberalism. He was clearly senile at the end and if someone didn't see it, then it's because they didn't want to. Robert Byrd was a disgrace as a Klansman, senator, and pork spender.

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history. 

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I. 

You cannot simultaneously laud his authentic genuineness and dismiss his racism, which was extreme even by Southern Democrat standards despite his representing one of the most racially progressive southern states, on the basis of "well anyone from West Virginia would be."  Do you see the logical inconsistency here?*  Of course, it's plain that he was an authentic genuine extreme racist.  Being the local Exalted Cyclops would've been a political liability in 1940s Alabama, much more so West Virginia.  Remember also that this was the guy who as late as the 80s was joining filibusters of MLK Day, and dropping n-words on national television in the 2000s.

*It's also just plain not true, the Senators who served with him, Matt Neely, Jennings Randolph, and Jay Rockefeller were all not racists and in fact among the more actively anti-racist members of the Democratic caucus.

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

How did he attempt to "ruin" anybodys life?

Voting to make people's lives harder like voting against the Civil Rights Acts? Actions speak louder than words. His words mean nothing after his voting record.

Barack Obama campaigned for Robert Byrd in 2008, just 7 years after using the n-word on Fox News. This just goes to show how much Democrats really care about race. Robert Byrd was a grand dragon who filibustered the Civil Rights bill for 14 hours. Obama is a black guy who apparently doesn't really care about race after all. Actions speak louder than words and Obama's actions of campaigning for a Klansman speak volumes. I'm trying to figure out which one I hate more.

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Here comes the most bigoted, most ridiculous post that I've seen in a while:

BREAKING: Southern Republicans still super racist.

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Here comes the most bigoted, most ridiculous post that I've seen in a while:

BREAKING: Southern Republicans still super racist.

It sucks when there's an evidence base doesn't it?

But there's not.  Paula Deen is a much more recent figure than Martin Luther King; considering how dismal our education system has become, I doubt many of them even know who Martin Luther King even is.  And consider, also, that Paula Deen grew up in the South in a different time.  That doesn't excuse it, but I'm sure there were plenty of people back then who used the N-word because it was the word they were used to hearing, although it's definitely offensive.  This poll was taken by a Democratic pollster and is obviously trying to prove exactly the point that Leif made. 

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Here comes the most bigoted, most ridiculous post that I've seen in a while:

BREAKING: Southern Republicans still super racist.

It sucks when there's an evidence base doesn't it?

But there's not.  Paula Deen is a much more recent figure than Martin Luther King; considering how dismal our education system has become, I doubt many of them even know who Martin Luther King even is.  And consider, also, that Paula Deen grew up in the South in a different time.  That doesn't excuse it, but I'm sure there were plenty of people back then who used the N-word because it was the word they were used to hearing, although it's definitely offensive.  This poll was taken by a Democratic pollster and is obviously trying to prove exactly the point that Leif made. 

Excuse me. I don't mean to interject on your turf, but I have a question/comment I'd like to pose. You're willing to bring up Robert Byrd's use of the "N"-word, but seem equally as inclined to give Ms. Deen a pass. Is there something I'm over-looking, or merely some explanation required?

I don't know of Paula Deen ever exhibiting any sort of racism other than a (most likely casual) use of the N-word.  Robert Byrd, on the other hand, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and had a long history of racism for most of his life.

And I don't have a problem with you "interjecting on my turf."  Feel free to raise observations if you'd like, just as long as they're respectful.

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Governance according to Republican principles and good rock music from the '60's to '80's.

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[...]  And consider, also, that Paula Deen grew up in the South in a different time.  That doesn't excuse it, but I'm sure there were plenty of people back then who used the N-word because it was the word they were used to hearing, although it's definitely offensive.[...]

But Robert Byrd is racist, racist, racist. You're a real confusing person, you know that?

Apples to oranges; I explained this to Cathcon.  I haven't seen Paula Deen exhibit any racism aside from a (most likely casual) use of the N-word.  Robert Byrd had the actions and the history to back up his racism.

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I say this as a Christian and someone who very much believes in God, I don't generally buy into this stuff, whether it's the Virgin Mary's face on a grilled cheese sandwich, or Mother Teresa's face on a cinnamon bun, or this.

But you have to admit, grilled cheese and cinnamon buns are gifts of God, no?

Cinnamon buns are clearly made by the devil, as they contain a ludicrous amount of calories. They are there to lead us into temptation and God punishes us by adding to our rotundness. Abstain from cinnamon buns and their ilk and you shall be thin, so sayeth the Lord.

The good Lord did not make calories so that we may abstain from them, my good sir.

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both are extremely overrated

I find it hard to over-rate the Savior of the World. And don't get me started on Jesus.

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It also seems that Oldiesfreak, possibly due to being a massive GOP hack and possible due to his autism, is unable to see covert racism (which I'll explain below), which is much more prevalent in America today than overt racism (example of overt racism: "I hate those n***ers!")

Overt racism is the use of code words (often known as the dogwhistle) to scare or rile up working and middle-class white voters into voting for you. Common dogwhistles include "state's rights", almost anything related to welfare or other anti-poverty programs (especially after 1996), "tough on crime", and most of the War on Drugs, and it's what brought conservative white southerners into the Republican fold after the Johnson administration.

Maybe Oldiesfreak does not hear the dogwhistle because he is not the dog? 

No, I don't hear it because it's not there.  The only racists are the ones who see racism in phrases like that.   And conservative white Southerners were becoming more Republican before the Johnson administration due to economic issues and a more moderate position on racial issues.

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[...]  And consider, also, that Paula Deen grew up in the South in a different time.  That doesn't excuse it, but I'm sure there were plenty of people back then who used the N-word because it was the word they were used to hearing, although it's definitely offensive.[...]

But Robert Byrd is racist, racist, racist. You're a real confusing person, you know that?

Oh, no, you misunderstand. Oldies has no problem with racists, he's fine with voting for them - it's those racist Democrats who are the problem. Racist Republicans are fine.

Mississippi - Trent Lott (R) (Probably reluctantly)

Wrong again.  One positive comment about Strom Thurmond does not a racist make.  And did you not read what I said immediately afterwards?
Anyway, Chris Dodd once said that Robert Byrd would make "a great Senator at any time in history."  Does that make him a racist?  Where's your outrage over that?  How is that any different from Trent Lott (other than being from opposite parties)?

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This is what happens when Democrats get elected to office and initiate economic policies. It's also what happens when government gets too big.

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Snowstalker, once you take away that ellipsis from the quote, Lee Atwater is basically saying that if it's code for race it's so abstract that whether or not its code for race ceases to matter. He's saying it's not a dog whistle because the dog ain't gonna hear it.

Exactly.  Lee Atwater wasn't necessarily talking about the Southern strategy, he was talking about racial politics in general.  And he wasn't saying they were dog whistles, just that it didn't matter whether or not they were because they were such nebulous terms.

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Does being a Forum Democrat to begin with count? OH! Buh dum chs!

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freedom chili. I use to work at Wendy's and would make the chili every morning. I would eat it mostly during the winter but also in the fall and spring when it was cool.

All of the stuff to make the chili was prepackaged or in cans it was

1 can of chili base then you refill the can with water
1 package of chili seasoning mix in with the base.
1 can of kidney beans drained and rinsed
1 can of red beans drained and rinsed
1 package of vegetables
all the ingredients except the meat were mixed in tall plastic containers and refrigerated until needed usually not more than a day or so.

the meat was added when the chili when on the stove to cook. The meat came from the hamburger patties, any burnt or overcooked patties were used but you would also add regular cooked patties that were fine. The meat was stored in a pan in a heated drawer until full. the meat would be cooled and frozen unless used right away, which happened because we were behind or out of meat. The frozen meat would be heated to a boil in a pan of water then drained and chopped up finely and added to the chili as it goes on the stove or sometimes after the chili has been on the stove for a hour or so which is not the proper way and sometimes you can tell it was done this way because the meat doesn't have a good chili favor because it was not in the chili long enough. This is how they did it at the Wendy's I worked at it may be different at other Wendy's.

all the ingredients except the meat were put in tall plastic containers and refrigerated until needed usually not more than a day or so.

The chili had to cook for 4 hours. Left over chili from the previous day was cooled down and refrigerated and cooked for at least 2 more hours the next day then reused. That was the good chili because it cooked longer and therefore tasted better. Personally I think the chili needed to cook for more than 4 hours.

Really, no fingers?