KY-PPP (D): Alison Lundergan Grimes (D) ahead of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R)

[Maxwell]

This IS PPP and its very early on, PPP always overestimates democrats in polls when its not at least a half year away.

This is a bad talking point that needs to stop. I was hoping only Oldies bought into this stuff.

[Maxwell]

This IS PPP and its very early on, PPP always overestimates democrats in polls when its not at least a half year away.

This is a bad talking point that needs to stop. I was hoping only Oldies bought into this stuff.

But it's true.  I remember last summer, most of the polls had Obama leading Romney by only a few points like states in Colorado and Virginia, but PPP had him leading there by almost double digits.  And besides, what makes you think that a Democratic pollster wouldn't have results that are biased toward Democrats?  They may be accurate just before an election, but their early campaign polling is awful.

I also remember the Sanford/Colbert Busch race where PPP had Busch up 9-5 points weeks before the election, than a few days before the election they changed it to Sanford + 1, and even then Sanford won by 9 (!)

They didn't "change it" they did a poll. The momentum was clearly on Sanford's side toward the end. Besides, it's a special election, turnout is very volatile. Changes can happen quickly in those circumstances. I feel like you are pretending not to understand nuances of special elections in order to prove yourself right.

Besides, every other pollster had those numbers about the same.

[Maxwell]

Maxwell, you speak to Oldie, it's impossible to change his mind. You know, the democrats are still racist, everybody on this forum is socialist, and PPP is just a junk poll, yeah it's true we have to unskew the polls haha, we should trust Karl rove, who is republican, so he's right all the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

But it's not Oldies. It's Waukesha County, who is someone who is new and I hope is able to be convinced of the real world.