EU and China approve Comprehensive Agreement on Investment (CAI)

[Velasco]

I'm amazed to discover I' m a citizen of a pro-Chinese organization.

OMG, what can we do? The Chinese are going to implant the 5G chip into us!

. Nobody, not a single US or EU official has called for regime change in China because they know the consequences are likely dire (and its nigh-impossible anyway). Let's not caricaturize us China sceptics please.

I get your point and think that criticism and scepticism are correct and neccessary. It's only that you don't need to be a PRC fan to laugh at certain hyperbolic rants. Also, I'm not a PRC fan but in no way I am willing to support US imperialism and the return to the Cold War. The world is changing and turning more complicated.  Multilateralism is the way to go

[Velasco]

I'm amazed to discover I' m a citizen of a pro-Chinese organization.

OMG, what can we do? The Chinese are going to implant the 5G chip into us!

. Nobody, not a single US or EU official has called for regime change in China because they know the consequences are likely dire (and its nigh-impossible anyway). Let's not caricaturize us China sceptics please.

I get your point and think that criticism and scepticism are correct and neccessary. It's only that you don't need to be a PRC fan to laugh at certain hyperbolic rants. Also, I'm not a PRC fan but in no way I am willing to support US imperialism and the return to the Cold War. The world is changing and turning more complicated.  Multilateralism is the way to go

Multilateralism doesn't work when one of the major hegemonic powers doesn't believe in the basic concept of the rule of law.

Do you believe other hegemonic powers are observant of the laws when their interests are at play? The US are more democratic than China, but this does not imply they are charity angels. I'm not in favour of joining the New Silk Road as Italy did,  I think we must restore the good faith between Europe and the US now that Trump is gone.  But we need to establish an acceptable relationship with China and avoid a Cold War escenario, because we and the rest of the world have a lot to lose and nothing to win there. Ideally Europe should have a common foreign policy and be a major advocate of multilateralism, while maintaining a close relationship with the USA

[Velasco]

China is not the only  country of the world with an oppressive and unacceptable regime, sadly. It's not that I'm prone to ignore countries that violate human rights and I'm very concerned myself by the expansion of the Chinese model of police state.The issue is that handling with a rising and massive superpower like China is by no means an easy task. I'm thinking in terms of pragmatism and effectiveness: what do you think you are going to achieve with a policy of sanctions and confrontation? Have you forgotten the unmitigated disaster of Iraq, a rogue state much smaller than the PRC? Do you realize that a full-scale commercial war against China would have catastrophic consequences for the world's economy? Our planet is facing massive challenges with the impending existential threat of the climate emergency. The last thing that we need right now is engaging in Cold War II. I'm not hiding, just think that the context demands being pragmatic and even seeking to cooperate with China in order to avert a major collapse. There exists the historical precedent of WW II  when the Western Allies and the USSR cooperated to defeat the Axis powers