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Gabu
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« on: December 13, 2007, 08:02:06 PM »

Wow, this is quite possible the boldest move I've ever seen Congress take.  Those Christians are so persecuted and downtrodden.  I mean it's not as if the United States is 75% Christian or anything.  Perhaps next Congress will pass a resolution celebrating kittens.
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Gabu
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 08:04:42 PM »

What's wrong with this? Apart from the time thing?

The fact that they felt the need to go "yay Christians!" in a country that is 75% Christian.  It's one of those things that really does not need to be said, and when it is said, it comes across more as retarded feel-good politics to improve people's impressions of Congress than as a truly heartfelt statement.
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Gabu
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 11:15:25 PM »

I personally think the Christmas and Ramadan resolutions were pointless.

See, when Inks thinks that something commending Christians and Christmas is pointless, you know it's pointless. Wink
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Gabu
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 01:12:45 PM »

Considering Chrisitans are the most persecuted group in the country

If by "persecuted" you mean "are in the vast majority in the Western world and are in control of every single facet of the United States and basically every other Western country", then yes, they're certainly very persecuted.
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Gabu
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 03:26:31 PM »
« Edited: December 15, 2007, 03:29:07 PM by Gabu »

You must look at the common Christian man.  The double standard is so immense against him because like you say "OMG they have such much power nothing could be wrong."  Everything gets blamed on them.  Perhaps it extends farther to simply the white male.  It is hard to dispute that the range of things a minority can do without reprecussions is much higher than that of a white man.

Welcome to being in the vast majority.  That's what happens when you're in the vast majority, are in control of everything, and allow the other people a voice.  You wanna stop it, you can be like Saudi Arabia where any words against those in control are met with harsh and cruel punishment.  Otherwise, you gotta take the bad with the good - and believe me, there's a whole lotta good that you seem to be ignoring.

Try running for office and tell your would-be constituents that you aren't a Christian.  See how far you get in most areas of the country.  The fact that you basically have to believe in God to get elected in America is a much greater persecution (and it still isn't even close to meeting the definition of the word) than anything Christians get.
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Gabu
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 03:31:33 PM »

This idea that Christians control everything could not be farther from the truth, if you were to say Judeo-Christian people controlled the vast majority I would agree with you.

Politically, no, it actually is the truth.  Christians are in the vast, vast majority in terms of elected positions.  See the bit I added to the post you replied to.
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Gabu
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 03:48:20 PM »

Ah, but the difference between elected power and actual power is huge.  You don't think some people heading up large corporations do not have a large amount of influence?  And again, their is a difference between your power holder and your common man.  Why should I suffer (and believe me I fed up of this crap because I do suffer from these laws with my outspokenness) because my people are in power when I have nothing to do with it?

Enumerate your suffering, if you would.  Does it break your itty-bitty heart that people don't express their love and adoration of Christians and Christianity twenty-four hours a day?

Your inability to understand in even vaguely correct terms the real meaning of the word "persecution" underscores how ridiculously pampered your existence really is and how frivolous your complaints really are.
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Gabu
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 04:29:53 PM »

I'm sure some of the Christians on this board were called "Bible-bashers" at school.

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That... is not even close to "persecution".
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Gabu
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 04:47:36 PM »

You're right, but it's still not acceptable.

No, but neither is Christians doing similar things to other people, which also happens... the idea that Christians have it much worse than others in the United States is just false.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 08:10:48 PM »

I am constantly getting in trouble in school because say the things I say are racially motivated when at the same time kids say things against Christians and it is OK.  The common thing I see here is "Christians are the majority so shut up we can do whatever we want to you."

Well, maybe you would stop getting in trouble at school if you stopped being racist.

I really don't think that punishing a student who happens to be a Christian for racially insensitive remarks is the persecution of Christians.

Way back in the days of Shakespeare, anti-Semitism was rampant; Jews were shunned, were routinely portrayed in hideous caricatures, were forced to wear a red hat to identify themselves, were forced to live in a ghetto to keep them away from good Christian folk, were barred from owning land or entering the professions, and this list goes on and on.  That is persecution.  Being punished for saying racially insensitive remarks (which you would undoubtedly get punished for even if you weren't a Christian) is not persecution, and as I said, the fact that you think it is underscores how comfortable your life really is.
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Gabu
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 09:36:37 PM »

Way back in the days of Shakespeare, anti-Semitism was rampant; Jews were shunned, were routinely portrayed in hideous caricatures, were forced to wear a red hat to identify themselves, were forced to live in a ghetto to keep them away from good Christian folk, were barred from owning land or entering the professions, and this list goes on and on. 

But not in the country that Shakespeare lived in. Because it was illegal to be Jewish in England at the time.

That too. Tongue
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Gabu
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2007, 09:11:52 AM »

Ideally, they should have all received unanimous positive votes.

Ideally, none of them should have been brought up at all, since then Congress could actually get down to meaningful business... then again, it probably wouldn't do that even if they weren't doing this crap.
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2007, 08:31:58 PM »

hahaha . . . well, I don't believe there is anything in the Constitution that bars the Congress from passing ceremonial resolutions.

There's nothing that bars me from taking my TV and smashing it on the ground, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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