Discipline

[Gabu]

Depends on what is meant by "discipline".  If it's "honestly teaching, in a caring manner, what is right and what is wrong", then yes, I would agree.  If it's "irrational parental assertion of dominance", then no, I would not.

[Gabu]

Also, acceptance of discipline is a strange concept.  Kids, even adults, never ACCEPT discipline.  It is forced down their throats.  Did I ACCEPT it when I was grounded, or forced to stay hours after school doing work details?  Hell no, I endured it because I was forced on me, even if I knew deep down that I deserved it (I usually did).  It takes a mature person to really accept discipline.  Even today, the only "discipline" I really accept is a penalty that I don't really care about (like a traffic fine).  Of course, I'm not getting disciplined much these days, but when I do, I still have the same rebellious reaction.

It is only later that people learn to appreciate the discipline they received as kids.

I think this is an excellent observation.  I hated every moment of "correction" my parents gave me, but looking back on it now, I'm very glad they did.

[Gabu]

I think this is an excellent observation.  I hated every moment of "correction" my parents gave me, but looking back on it now, I'm very glad they did.

I, on the other hand, learned that much of what my parents told me was a load of bull**** and have now generally rejected it.  I frankly wish I had stopped listening to them a lot earlier.

Well, yes.  For discipline to do anything, it requires the child to consciously think about it.  In away, the line "Now, I want you to sit there and think about what you did!", comical as it sounds, is the only way anyone has ever reformed their modus operandi.  Punishment alone will do nothing.