IDS Constitutional Change Discussion Thread

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Article II

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Article III

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Article IV

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Article V

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Article IX

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This is what I have for the non-sexy part of it - it doesn't deal with names nor constitutionally protected rights.

As for the names, if we really are scrapping the Imperial regalia (and at this point I'm not sure about that), then shouldn't we just go back to Governor/Speaker/Legislature/Magistrate/The South? Simplify things?

I think we should include a right to a job.

You mean a right to work?

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As for Sections 2 and 3:

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I wonder if  gubernatorial elections are still held on April, August and December. In other case, the mention is useless.

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This section is obviously outdated, it should be removed.

Yes, that is when elections happen. I do not see any problem with it, or with the ratification details - Article VII of the US Constitution wasn't removed.

SJoyce wants to change Central Time for Eastern Time. I was neutral at first, but this map tells me that it's not a good idea:
As you can see, the bulk of our territory falls into the Central Time zone, including Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, part of Tennessee, Missisipi and Alabama. Besides, the current regional capital is located at Memphis, in the part of TN that falls in the CST zone.

My rationale for that was, based on the current IDS population, we have 9 living on Central Time and 19 living on Eastern Time (the rest are in other time zones) If it becomes an issue later on we can change it, but right now it's easier for the majority if it's Eastern.

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My rationale for that was, based on the current IDS population, we have 9 living on Central Time and 19 living on Eastern Time (the rest are in other time zones) If it becomes an issue later on we can change it, but right now it's easier for the majority if it's Eastern.

I guess you mean 19 people living on Eastern Time IRL. My time zone is the one of the Greenwich Meridian so, as you can imagine, I don't care too much if we use CST or Eastern Time. However, this is a game set in a fictional context, and according to it using CST makes more sense. On the other hand, there's only 1 hour of difference and people living in the Eastern zone have managed well to date. In the game context I live in CST, FTR.

Yeah, I was talking IRL. And sure, in our context it makes more sense to use CST, but it makes it easier for more people if we use EST. Not a change I'm really set on though.

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We have to start somewhere.

STARTING PROPOSAL FOR A NEW CONSTITUTION

There are a number of structural changes and elimination of inconsistencies - in current Article I, for instance, the discrepancies between Sections 1 & 10. Lieutenant Governor is restored (seeing as how I can't find anywhere where the office was actually abolished), as well as generic boring names (except for Lulu ). Eastern Time is adopted. Etc, etc.

We abolished the position of Viceroy with Bacon King's amendment to the regional constitution, I believe.

-You drop the current Article I, Clause 3. I like that clause - it's testament to how we've maintained the same Constitution since the beginning.

-I'd prefer the elections to begin whenever and then run for 72 full hours, to keep it standardized and prevent elections of 60-72 hours - I'd also prefer that we resolve tie votes under the procedures in the CESRA (Sections 2-4) rather than go through having a runoff, so the government runs quicker and we don't have to wait on the results of runoff elections and such.

-Why scrap the rights, liberties, and interests bit? And doesn't it make more sense to just give the Governor-Emperor authority to put legislation directly into the legislative queue instead of holding initiative elections?

-I'd like to quantify "several citizens", preferably as a percentage.

-I think PiT has already explained the opposition to special elections.

-In your section 11, we passed Hash's procedures bill and any seat where they don't post for I believe 15 days is auto-vacant.

-Change "three citizens" (Article IV) to a percentage.

-I'd like to add more clauses to Article V (your article VI) to address the use of fixin to, figure, howdy, reckon, skedaddle, tarnation, and yankee.

-Change "or" in your Article VII, Clause 3 to "and".

-Do we need to change Clause 5 in Voting Regulations to be IRV? There also needs to be something under voting regulations (valid ballots) about 'unless there is only one contest on the ballot'.

-Where did our bill of rights go?

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I think it would be suitable to make coincide the regional elections with the federal ones, as far as possible. If it's possible to make coincide both elections, I think we should make coincide the hour. In the last election the South's polling booth closed hours later, with regard to the Federal booth. I think a mention might be included in Article I, section 2.

It closed an hour after the federal one because of Central time.