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Question: Is it possible to be "cool" and support Mitt Romney?
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Yes
 
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AmericanNation
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« on: October 17, 2012, 08:00:23 AM »

Yes.  In fact the types that support Obama/dems are increasingly uncool every year.  I coach a High School sports team and 9 of the 10 coolest kids are Romney supporters.  The Obama kid only is cool because he is funny and good at making fun of himself like a clown.  It's hard to like someone who's super serious about supporting BO because typically they have no logical basis to do so.     
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 09:10:35 AM »

Yes.  In fact the types that support Obama/dems are increasingly uncool every year.  I coach a High School sports team and 9 of the 10 coolest kids are Romney supporters.  The Obama kid only is cool because he is funny and good at making fun of himself like a clown.  It's hard to like someone who's super serious about supporting BO because typically they have no logical basis to do so.     

The serious case for Obama is that his government spending/hiring is the only thing keeping unemployment out of the teens and GDP growth positive right now.  Unfortunately for him, it's a challenging and very hypothetical case to make.  Hence the repeated warnings about going back to Bush policies. 
That is somewhat logical, but
1) Most people aren't that coherent in forming a rational for BO.  
2) Under basic examination that line breaks down and becomes extremely hard to defend, at which point illogical things inevitably come out in an emotional torrent.  

It's hard to like someone who's super serious about supporting BO because typically they have no logical basis to do so.    

Unless they're not rich.
 
I'm not sure what your point is.  "Only rich people are Republicans?"  
Dems are the party of the super rich and powerful and they try to "buy" the cheapest/easiest votes they can in order to keep/use power to preserve/improve their power structure.  
That being the case, I can't make out your point.    
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 10:08:54 AM »

You left out Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Ronald Regan, etc. etc.
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 11:11:46 AM »

It's hard to like someone who's super serious about supporting BO because typically they have no logical basis to do so.

Unless they're not rich.
 
I'm not sure what your point is.  "Only rich people are Republicans?"  
Dems are the party of the super rich and powerful and they try to "buy" the cheapest/easiest votes they can in order to keep/use power to preserve/improve their power structure.  
That being the case, I can't make out your point.    

The point is obvious - it is rational for the non-rich to vote Democratic (or socialist if only they had that option).  It is only logical for the rich to vote Republican.
Only if you define the middle class as "the rich".  The entrenched super rich class owns the democrats.   They try to build a winning coalition as cheap and 'radical' as they can because you can mold 'untethered people' more easily to do/support what you want.  It's like giving candy to children.  Here's a free phone, here's free birth control, here's a racial quota, let's "go after" the 'rich' and make things 'fair', here's a government contract, here's a grant, here's a regulation to make you feel better...  It's literally throwing candy around treating everyone like children, but don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here, and never mind how we messed that up, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE CANDY AWAY!!!         
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 12:00:39 PM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.

exceptional. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 11:33:06 AM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.

exceptional.  

Worse.

Only if you define the middle class as "the rich".  The entrenched super rich class owns the democrats.   They try to build a winning coalition as cheap and 'radical' as they can because you can mold 'untethered people' more easily to do/support what you want.  It's like giving candy to children.  Here's a free phone, here's free birth control, here's a racial quota, let's "go after" the 'rich' and make things 'fair', here's a government contract, here's a grant, here's a regulation to make you feel better...  It's literally throwing candy around treating everyone like children, but don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here, and never mind how we messed that up, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE CANDY AWAY!!!        

No, the rich prefer the Republicans, Amna.  The 'middle class' is just a few petite bourgeois, doctors, lawyers, and that sort of thing.  The vast, vast majority of Americans are poor or 'working class' persons.
The rich prefer Republicans, but the super-rich prefer Democrats.
super powerful people as well.  This tends to corespond to some sort of monopoly-ish powerful institution backed by or protected by the government or the dem party.   

Their is the tendency of inheritance based-majority wealth to be dem,
whereas individual based wealth to be R. 

The aviator scene is just profoundly insightful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-ljup5Bow
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