Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I don’t imagine Biden’s problem will be his approval overall, so much as it will be the intensity of his disapproval and the lack of intensity in his support.

The people who like Joe Biden don’t love him, but the people who dislike Joe Biden seem to hate him. I’d be a little nervous to see what happens if the GOP nominates someone who is relatively inoffensive in 2024. That being said, I’m not sure such a Republican even exists these days, so who knows. Maybe Joe’s intense support will tick up when voters see who the alternative could be.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Could anyone successfully primary Biden?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Could anyone successfully primary Biden?

No. His numbers, as bad as they are, aren't devastating. There's still wide approval for him within the Dem Party and no serious politician will challenge him. Warren, Sanders (if he's even healthy enough), and certainly Harris wouldn't challenge him. Moderates, like Buttigieg and Klobuchar, are supportive of him and wouldn't dare. Other moderates like Gottheimer, S. Murphy, etc. would go absolutely nowhere. Novelty/celebrity candidates wouldn't fare well either.

TLDR he's still popular among Dems and nobody credible would challenge him. I guess Simena's crazy butt would think she has a shot but she'd go down in flames.

I’m operating under the assumption that his approvals will continue to go down rather than up and that his legislative wins won’t actually matter.

If he’s at 35 percent approval, I have to believe there are people who would at least consider throwing their hat in the ring.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

The new WaPo-ABC poll confirms everything I have been saying for a while now

People are increasingly not living in reality anymore and social media shapes how they see everything from the economy to covid. Biden could have the greatest economy of all time and the lowest inflation ever and most people will still be convinced that things are going horrible just because something they saw on Facebook

Here is an example of just how crazy some of the results of the ABC poll is

63% of respondents said Biden has accomplished “not very much” or “little or nothing” so far in his presidency. A full 45% said he’s done “little or nothing” — that’s worse than the numbers for then-Presidents DONALD TRUMP, BARACK OBAMA or BILL CLINTON

Just 31% said he’s kept most of his major campaign promises — also a worse figure than Trump, Obama or Clinton received.


even looking at it objectively this is insane and it just shows how disconnected people are from what is happening in the real world because Biden has easily gotten more of his agenda passed than trump or bill Clinton yet based on this poll people are acting like this guy has literally not passed anything at all since he has been president. both bill Clinton and trump failed to pass their first major bill yet they are still giving more credit them Biden, who has so far successfully passed 2 Major Bills that he promised the American people he would

Also In the WaPo-ABC poll 70% rated the economy as “not so good” or “poor.”

Just looking at these numbers, you would have no idea that this recently happened under Biden


I have to admit in my lifetime, I have never seen anything like the situation that is playing out with Biden. Biden may truly be the first president that have ever seen get low poll numbers at a time when he the overall economy is doing well and while he has been successful at passing his agenda

Even the comparison with jimmy carter or Gerald Ford does not work because the economy was way worse in the 1970s and was heading into a recession at the end. Both of those presidents dealt with high gas prices and inflation yet none of them were rated as low as Biden is at this point, despite the fact that Biden has a way better economy than they did.

even Obama, who was in the middle of the great recession and was dealing with high gas prices in early 2012 was getting better numbers than Biden.
  

I once watched a video about ppl rating Biden, it’s quite clear they have no idea what’s going on. Most of them get their news from the media who for some reason keep pushing all this inflation BS

I think it’s also a perception problem. Biden looks old. He fumbles his words. He doesn’t appear to have his party under control.

It all adds up, and many voters have a hard time admitting when they’ve misjudged somebody. I think Biden is cooked, regardless of what he gets done.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

A lot is baked in because of people’s overall impressions of Biden.

Also worth saying that it’s all good to speak happily about his “highest approval ratings since June,” but if I recall, even in June nobody was feeling especially positive about Biden’s great approval ratings. My take is that he’s mostly stuck in the dumps because he presents as a bumbling old man. His recent successes are great, and I hope they’ll [continue to] move the needle, but I wouldn’t count on a significant recovery.