Sweden stunned by third night of Stockholm rioting

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Not the sort of thing I expected to happen in Sweden of all places.

Not so strange. Large ghetto population of poorly integrated ethnic minorities living in parallel communities.

Bad integration = significantly higher youth unemployment among minorities (16% compared to 6% for ethnic Swedes) = poverty and desperation.

Of course its a chicken and egg thing because unemployment is also a cause of bad integration.

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Not the sort of thing I expected to happen in Sweden of all places.

Not so strange. Large ghetto population of poorly integrated ethnic minorities living in parallel communities.

Yeah, but I'd expect Malmo and other areas would go up first...

Malmo has a bad reputation, but its somewhat exaggerated. Stockholm definetly has some of the worst ghettos in Sweden (as one would expect from a capital area).

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police sirens blaring in the comical way European police sirens blare

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police sirens blaring in the comical way European police sirens blare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hSmpHgzJLE

Yeah, it was just bordering on self parody. Besides there are different types of police sirens in  European countries.

Most US police sirens sounds like a dentist drill, which is really annoying.

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And out where I live, everything is as still as it used to be.

I don't know what to say. I'm a bit scared of our future, of course, and I'm angry at these people because they provoke a very nasty part of our society that is getting bigger and stronger.

Will certainly be used for scaremongering this side of Øresund as well. DPP loves bashing "Swedish naivity" and using Sweden as an example of how bad things can go if you let multiculturalism and "softness" run amok.

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More riots going on tonight, now in Botkyrka and Malmö as well.

Sigh, obviously these people will only end up making things worse for themselves, why don't they understand that?

It's hard to imagine a better course of action for the rioters. They're systematically excluded from society and as a result face tremendous limitations in the political sphere that prevent legal action. Protests would presumably be met with jeers and insults; a party based on immigrant identity would be powerless. Not an insight but I think it's important to point out.

You make Sweden sound as if it was an apartheid state

Regarding the bolded part: Swedish  immigrants are divided into too many groups to form a party, but if it was possible to organize an immigrant party and pass the 4% threshold it could potentially be quite powerfull in a PR system, holding the decisive votes and being able to shift the balance of power between the two blocs.

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More riots going on tonight, now in Botkyrka and Malmö as well.

Sigh, obviously these people will only end up making things worse for themselves, why don't they understand that?

It's hard to imagine a better course of action for the rioters. They're systematically excluded from society and as a result face tremendous limitations in the political sphere that prevent legal action. Protests would presumably be met with jeers and insults; a party based on immigrant identity would be powerless. Not an insight but I think it's important to point out.

Yeah, clearly the Swedes are the problem here.  They should leave and let these people take over.  The countries they came from are perfect and they just want to spread that perfection to Sweden (and France and the UK and ...).

For your information, in Sweden the criminal immigrants used to be Finns. Integration to the society just doesn't happen overnight, and if you are unemployed and look different than the major population, it may not succeed at all. Leading to such struggles between classes like this.

I haven't followed this more than what we get constantly from Finnish media, but consider this. What started the problems was police shooting a nearly 70-year-old man in his home. The man was Portuguese, married with a Finn. According to the police, he was causing trouble and was armed with a knife, so they storm into his apartment - and shoot him. The neighborhood finds this was one time too many of police excesses, so during the next week they organize peaceful demonstrations. No one cares. If protests don't work, often someone gets frustrated. So now we have a few dozen young boys rioting every night, and now, suddenly everyone cares a lot.

Anyway as far as I know, the only person already arrested for rioting is a Finnish citizen.

Perhaps he became Finnish by osmosis? As we all know Finns and knifes is a lethal combination..

Anyway, even if you are right its just "a few young boys" it can still be pretty scary for the residents in the areas.

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To DFB: Most of the stuff you write is hyperbole and immigrants, like everybody else, are responsible for their own lives. There are plenty of opportunities in Sweden and its generally a tolerant country.

Police brutality is quite low in Sweden compared to most other countries.