Teen curfews

[patrick1]

It depends, What color are said teens?     To allude to Alcon's white boy rant post, Yeah cops usually will just drive by a young man like Alcon.  The sad and true thing is that some black kid dressed in Fubu; or whatever the heck the fashion is these days, will not be accorded the same courtesy.  I know a lot of cops and policing is not color blind.   

For me it would be profoundly hypocritical to support a curfew.  I used to party on the beach all night long and unlike most of the teens on this board I was up to no good.  "Relatively" minor lawbreaking really: drink, weed, fights and noise violations.  I threw a multiple keg party on the beach one time that attracted near 500 hundred people.  The Nassau PD dispatched their helicopter and 30 police cruisers- I guess I wasted some tax payer dollars there...

[patrick1]

It depends, What color are said teens?     To allude to Alcon's white boy rant post, Yeah cops usually will just drive by a young man like Alcon.  The sad and true thing is that some black kid dressed in Fubu; or whatever the heck the fashion is these days, will not be accorded the same courtesy.  I know a lot of cops and policing is not color blind.   

For me it would be profoundly hypocritical to support a curfew.  I used to party on the beach all night long and unlike most of the teens on this board I was up to no good.  "Relatively" minor lawbreaking really: drink, weed, fights and noise violations.  I threw a multiple keg party on the beach one time that attracted near 500 hundred people.  The Nassau PD dispatched their helicopter and 30 police cruisers- I guess I wasted some tax payer dollars there...

.....typical Long Island white trash....

I seem to recall Pat grow up in Rockaway?

Chewing out a rhythm on my bubble gum
The sun is out and I want some.
Its not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride
To rockaway beach.
Up on the roof, out on the street
Down in the playground the hot concrete
Bus ride is too slow
They blast out the disco on the radio
Rock rock rockaway beach
Rock rock rockaway beach
We can hitch a ride
To rockaway beach
Its not hard, not far to reach
We can hitch a ride
To rockaway beach.

Rockaway is in Queens, which is technically on Long Island, though unofficially, the term "Long Island" usually refers to Nassau and Suffolk Counties, outside the city.

In any case, I think that by his teen years, Pat was living out in Nassau County rather than in Queens.

I'm just busting his balls in any case.

Yeah, I only lived in Rockaway when I was a little kid.  Thanks to Mayors Lindsay and Wagner most of Rockaway was turned into Fort Apache.  Whatver BRTD may argue living in a high crime area; even if it is right on the ocean, is not very fun.  At least half of the kids I went to school were kids of fellow Rockaway refugees.  I grew up in Long Beach- The City by the Sea but the more apt descripton would be Cirrohsis by the sea.   Long Beach is the barrier island directly southeast of the Rockaway Peninsula. My neighborhood was working class Irish year round residents and the population doubled with twenty something summer rentals.  I still have loads of family in "Rockaway"  and spent many weekends down there. 

And to Dazzleman- I prefer shanty Irish, thank you very much;)

 I don't really identify with Long Island very much.  Being a beach community and not car centric,  it is quite different from the rest of Nassau county.  Not to mention the guido factor was virtually non existent.

I thought it was two words- Lon Gisland.  Or is that just Brooklyn or something?

Honestly the only people around me who talk like that are most Jewish people and Italian women.

[patrick1]

 

And to Dazzleman- I prefer shanty Irish, thank you very much;)

Hah, I'll try to remember that Pat.  It's just that shanty Irish is so much more restrictive, while Long Island white trash can cut across so many ethnic groups.  But I'll have to go with your preference.

On Rockaway, it's hard to believe the stupidity of building massive low income housing projects on prime beachfront property.  New York did it in Rockaway and Coney Island, and destroyed both neighborhoods.  From what I understand, Rockaway gets better when you get further away from the PJs, but the main part of it has been destroyed.  Very sad.

From Beach 5th to Beach 95th Street or so is pretty dicey.  For the past decade or so a lot of Orthodox/Hasids form the former Soviet Union have been buying up a lot of property The further west you go the nicer it gets.  Rockaway Beach is in the early 100's and there are  alot of civil servants- cops and firefighters etc.  They have been building these new houses in Rockaway in the middle of the ghetto and charging like 400-500k.  Time will tell if this can turn it around.  I for one wouldn't want to live in a nice house in crummy neighborhood. 

As I have told you, My mom actually grew up in the projects but they were eventually forced out because they made too much money.  My Aunts still lived at home and worked as nurses and this was factored in.  It is a recipe for disaster when you force hard working people out and let the dregs take over.

Sorry for taking the thread on a tangent.  I don't like curfews at all but Far Rockaway is a good example of why many people want them.  You drive through there late on a school night and you have 13 year olds slinging rock at 2 in the morning.