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patrick1
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« on: February 22, 2006, 06:22:53 PM »

LOL.  I'll defer to the chorus of the Pogues Young Ned of the Hill:

A curse upon you Oliver Cromwell
You who raped our Motherland
I hope you're rotting down in hell
For the horrors that you sent
To our misfortunate forefathers
Whom you robbed of their birthright
"To hell or Connaught" may you burn in hell tonight

Nothing like Irish understatement;)
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2006, 06:40:58 PM »

Jas - incorrect. The earliest plantings occurred under Edward I, in SW Pembrokeshire, the Gower, and the towns of Conway, Carnarvon, and Beaumaris.



Well they were not plantings per se, but Anglo-Norman interference; on invitation from squabbling Gaelic Chieftains, begin around 1170 with Strongbow and Henry II.   The power of the Anglo-Hiberno-Norman lords ebbed and flowed for centuries thereafter but they always had a strong foothold in Leinster or specifically "the pale"  The Scots and Welsh should have known by then not to invite an English king to broker a dispute.   
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