Should the US Declare War Against and Take ISIS On the Ground?

[patrick1]

No. Simply no. Boots on the ground is the last thing we should do. Hell, we ought to drop the big one before we actually deploy ground troops (and no, we shouldn't do that either). This is an Arab fight. If the French and Russians want to fight it, good for them, but I don't think ISIS is officially our enemy until they strike us first on our own soil.

...this sorta already happened and I would say chopping our citizens heads off and raping women would make someone our enemy. Further, if 9/11 taught us something it was that you dont wait around to get popped in the f#cking mouth. You take the fight to the enemy. Now Iraq taught us that occupying land is a fool' errand.

[patrick1]

No. Simply no. Boots on the ground is the last thing we should do. Hell, we ought to drop the big one before we actually deploy ground troops (and no, we shouldn't do that either). This is an Arab fight. If the French and Russians want to fight it, good for them, but I don't think ISIS is officially our enemy until they strike us first on our own soil.

...this sorta already happened and I would say chopping our citizens heads off and raping women would make someone our enemy. Further, if 9/11 taught us something it was that you dont wait around to get popped in the f#cking mouth. You take the fight to the enemy. Now Iraq taught us that occupying land is a fool' errand.

Do you want to intervene in the Central African Republic? What about Zimbabwe? Mali? Darfur? Pretty sure the Troubles flair up every once in a while in Northern Ireland. How about Mexico? Lotta heads getting cut off there. Crimea? Gaza? Congo? Nigeria? Screw it all, lets just nuke the whole world.

How do you propose we beat ISIS? We can go in, shoot all their recruits, blow up their camps, and leave. Then what? This is a death cult we are dealing with. They are like cockroaches. They will just keep coming back. Taking the fight to them is exactly what they want. We ought to secure our own borders and let the Middle East sort itself out. The Iranians, Russians, and Syrian regime should just solve this problem on their own.

Standing by and hoping problems will resolve themselves or that someone else will take care of it is not a way to run a foreign policy. I propose we kill ISIS before they continue their abominations in Syria+Iraq, against our allies and their plans against the US. There is no negotiations with ISIS, you clear them out of the Syrian and Iraq, cut off all escape. Use local knowledge, they know who is from there and who is in league with whom. There is no political situation with them at the table. Just nice that the scum have largely ed with everyone in the region at this point so use this as a foundation for a first pointl of consensus in a larger political solution.