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« on: April 11, 2014, 03:25:04 PM »

Yes (feminist)

It's issues like this that radical feminists give feminism a bad name.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2014, 12:05:07 AM »

Yes (feminist)

It's issues like this that radical feminists give feminism a bad name.

Radical feminists giving feminism a bad name by being anti-male, but you don't need to be anti-male to be concerned about women being exploited by brothels.  How would brothel legalization poll among the general public?  20% or so?

I'm somewhere near CrabCake on this one.

A) Being against brothels is anti-male (and anti-female).
B) Worried about exploitation? Then regulate them. Ever heard of workplace safety?
C) Who cares how it would poll. One shouldn't make public policy decisions based on opinion polls alone. For the record though, I suspect brothels would poll somewhere in the 30s. At least it would here; there's likely at least a 10 point gap between Canada and the US.
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 05:35:52 PM »

Yes (feminist)

It's issues like this that radical feminists give feminism a bad name.

Radical feminists giving feminism a bad name by being anti-male, but you don't need to be anti-male to be concerned about women being exploited by brothels.  How would brothel legalization poll among the general public?  20% or so?

I'm somewhere near CrabCake on this one.

A) Being against brothels is anti-male (and anti-female).
B) Worried about exploitation? Then regulate them. Ever heard of workplace safety?
C) Who cares how it would poll. One shouldn't make public policy decisions based on opinion polls alone. For the record though, I suspect brothels would poll somewhere in the 30s. At least it would here; there's likely at least a 10 point gap between Canada and the US.
 

As I said, I'm undecided on the issue, but it's definitely not as black and white as you claim:

A - Legalisation would inflate demand. The lack of penalties, the legitimisation of the business and the loss of stigma would mean more people would want prostitutes.


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That's not only anti-sex, but rather offensive.

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Well, under capitalism the vulnerable are pushed into a lot of undesirable jobs.  The real problem here is capitalism.

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...and strict immigration controls. That's also a problem.

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A problem that wouldn't be unique to brothels.

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Looks like the Dutch need some brothel reform.


It's a really murky area, with so many shades of grey. We shouldn't be hasty in considering either side ultimately right or wrong.
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Yes (feminist)

It's issues like this that radical feminists give feminism a bad name.

Radical feminists giving feminism a bad name by being anti-male, but you don't need to be anti-male to be concerned about women being exploited by brothels.  How would brothel legalization poll among the general public?  20% or so?

I'm somewhere near CrabCake on this one.

A) Being against brothels is anti-male (and anti-female).
B) Worried about exploitation? Then regulate them. Ever heard of workplace safety?
C) Who cares how it would poll. One shouldn't make public policy decisions based on opinion polls alone. For the record though, I suspect brothels would poll somewhere in the 30s. At least it would here; there's likely at least a 10 point gap between Canada and the US.
 

Yeah I mean fracking is regulated and it totally solves all the issues associated with it.

Seriously? Terrible example. Fracking is regulated "in name only". Wholly inadequate. I'm not advocating for the same level of terrible regulation in brothels as exists for fracking.

Yes (feminist)

It's issues like this that radical feminists give feminism a bad name.

Radical feminists giving feminism a bad name by being anti-male, but you don't need to be anti-male to be concerned about women being exploited by brothels.  How would brothel legalization poll among the general public?  20% or so?

I'm somewhere near CrabCake on this one.

A) Being against brothels is anti-male (and anti-female).
B) Worried about exploitation? Then regulate them. Ever heard of workplace safety?
C) Who cares how it would poll. One shouldn't make public policy decisions based on opinion polls alone. For the record though, I suspect brothels would poll somewhere in the 30s. At least it would here; there's likely at least a 10 point gap between Canada and the US.
 

What?  No. Regardless of the merits, being opposed to it doesn't make someone Andrea Dworkin.  It's not what gives feminism a bad name. 

Not the main thing I admit, but a small part that is related to the bad name that extreme feminists give to the cause (most of which has to do with the anti-sex movement). I've heard that some radical feminists even think that all sex is rape.  It's issues like this one that have caused my partner to eschew the feminist label altogether, preferring to call herself an "equalist".  Since I have more of a background on the topic (OK, I took a few women's studies classes in university), I don't mind myself still being labelled as a feminist.
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