Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Earthling]

https://mobile.twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1500139415062069257?cxt=HHwWkoCyxbK2y...

When will Josh Hawley resign?

[Earthling]

https://mobile.twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1500139415062069257?cxt=HHwWkoCyxbK2y...

When will Josh Hawley resign?

He is shameless, but not worth criticising while Biden continues to sell Ukraine out for lower gas prices.

I don't disagree.

But Biden needs to weigh all options and all risks. For us it's easy to just shout and complain that Biden and other leaders are not doing enough. But with WWIII a real risk I expect our leaders to be carefull.

[Earthling]

Putin will be a DEAD MAN walking once the United States has a Republican President in 2025. Given the Comments made by Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina there is every indication once the US switches Power to a Republican President that President could then authorize a Special Operation just like Obama did with Bin Laden in 2010 to capture or kill Putin.

Remember: Soft Joe Biden was even against capturing or killing Bin Laden in 2010 and Obama had to overrule him!

Trump will hug and kiss him to death?

[Earthling]

Putin will be a DEAD MAN walking once the United States has a Republican President in 2025. Given the Comments made by Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina there is every indication once the US switches Power to a Republican President that President could then authorize a Special Operation just like Obama did with Bin Laden in 2010 to capture or kill Putin.

Remember: Soft Joe Biden was even against capturing or killing Bin Laden in 2010 and Obama had to overrule him!

Trump will hug and kiss him to death?

Trump will not be President. Pence, DeSantis I suspect could indeed authorize such a Special Operation. Putin has to stand TRAIL, period!

Sure, because it will be super easy taking Putin out.

Lindsey Graham and Mike Pence can talk all they want, they don`t hold any responsibility.

Biden on the other hand has to deal with reality. He has to be carefull with all his moves. Because WWIII and nuclear war are real possibilities.  

[Earthling]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1520686567001673728
Russia is losing like 10 tanks a day. My god how many tanks did we lose in either Iraq or Afghanistan?

Is it even true? Let's face it, this information comes from the Ukrainians. Not the most reliable of sources.

[Earthling]

If Putin tries to drop a nuke on Ukraine he will get fragged. It is not a serious concern.

The problem for Putin that the same will happen if he loses in the Ukraine.

The more dangerous the situation becomes for him, the more dangerous he might become.

[Earthling]

If Putin tries to drop a nuke on Ukraine he will get fragged. It is not a serious concern.

The problem for Putin that the same will happen if he loses in the Ukraine.

The more dangerous the situation becomes for him, the more dangerous he might become.

However, it is also the case that as the war becomes worse for Putin, his legitimacy will degrade, which makes it less likely that he would be obeyed if he started giving out insane orders.

That is also true.

But the nuclear option might be his endgame. And if he still has enough support within the military than the nuclear option will be real. He propably won't care what happens after him.

[Earthling]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1581198080191664128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...

The comments are brutal. More money taken away from American taxpayers for a hopeless foreign war they have no investment in.

Okay traitor.

[Earthling]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1581198080191664128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...
The comments are brutal. More money taken away from American taxpayers for a hopeless foreign war they have no investment in.

Okay traitor.

How is an American a traitor in a war that doesn't involve America? That's like calling a Wisconsin House voter a traitor in a Georgia Senate election.

Putin and Russia are enemies of America and of the west.

[Earthling]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1581198080191664128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...
The comments are brutal. More money taken away from American taxpayers for a hopeless foreign war they have no investment in.

Okay traitor.

This isn’t helpful in any way. It almost reminds me of how people were post-9/11 if you questioned Bush’s actions at all. For months we have been sending money to Ukraine and I haven’t seen any results whatsoever. There is still a war and I see no signs Ukraine is even close to winning. Do we just keep sending them a blank check indefinitely? And would Ukraine support us if we truly needed them? Where is the cutoff here and why?

To be clear I am not defending Russia’s actions in any way, that would be ridiculous. But we need to move toward peace in some way; this isn’t sustainable in the long term and could drag out for years.

You have not seen any results? Maybe you should be paying more attention. Ukraine is winning the war in the east and the south. Something that would not be happening without the support from America and it's allies.

[Earthling]

Putin and Russia are enemies of America and of the west.

But by that logic cannot one also say that Ho Chi Minh and DRV were enemies of the USA in the 1960s?  It does not seem to me that people in the 1960s that might not have approved of DRV but questioned the value cost and way the Vietnam war was being waged can be called traiors.  Perhaps at a technical level, you can say that about protestors that sang "Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh NLF is going to win !!" but even I might not agree.  First DRV never really threatened USA national sovereignty and those protesters never really supported Ho Chi Minh but were using him as a proxy to project their vision of the USA which was clearly different from the establishment vision of the USA.  I might not agree with this alterative vision of the USA of the protestors but that would not make me call them traitors unless USA national sovereignty was at stake. 

There is literally no comparison between Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam in the 1960´s and Putin/Russia right now. In the end the Vietnamese were fighting a civil war over control of their own country. At no point did Vietnam pose a credible threat to the US or it's allies.

Putin on the other hand did invade a foreign nation to increase his interests. He threatens the west with nuclear war if he does not get his way and has the goods to back those words.

Ho Chi Minh was a national threat, maybe regional. Putin is a threat to the world.

[Earthling]

If Trump was president there wouldn't have been a war in the first place. Him and them had respect for each other.

You seriously think Putin cared about Trump in the context of Ukraine? Is your opinion of the world really that Trump-centric? Putin's interests in Ukraine had nothing to do with Trump and if anything, he would have seen Trump as an ideal leader to give the least resistance to his plans given how permissive Trump was to Putin compared to other American presidents.

This idea that Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine because of Trump is one of the dumbest things said yet about this war.

Lib brain emotional fantasy.

How do you know? [...]

Oh, and how would you know? You just think everything would be better with Trump and you're blatantly projecting that onto the war in Ukraine.

Because there was never such a danger before Biden? Did you forget Trump was president?

Yeah, when Trump was President the Russians had an asset in the White House. Their man was The President and was doing the hard work for them.

That went away when Trump got his ass kicked.

That is the difference......

[Earthling]

Kherson City is basically a ghost city now. Everything of resource has been stripped, and it's citizens sent to mainland Russia or occupied territory. I would compare it to Moscow/Borodino 1812.

With Russia's last significant logistical strain gone/Dnieper river as cover, it's offensive capabilities are strengthened.

Its not been the best of weeks for you overall, has it? Never mind

Maybe he can finally take that year off of Atlas.

I think we will all wish Woodbury a nice and quiet time doing something else and think about the choices he has made in life.