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Incipimus iterum
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« on: December 17, 2016, 11:40:51 PM »

Also, as soon as a mental disability is diagnosed, a fetus should be aborted.

Essentially, the argument being made here...

That is not the argument I am making.

Is that not what you said?

No. It is not what I said. I also didn't say that the holocaust never happened or that poop tastes good. If you want to know what I actually said, go back and read it again. Don't make up bizarre arguments and then attribute them to me apropos of nothing.
Really... Lets take a look at the record
The mentally disabled should not be killed. They are humans. At the same time, they are absolutely a burden to society and anyone who says they are a blessing is clearly just trying to make themselves feel better about the horrible situation they are in. To minimize their burden to society, the government should run care homes where these people can be taken care of. If people want to take care of their own mentally retarded relatives by themselves, they should of course be allowed but if there are quality care homes, very few will choose that option. Also, as soon as a mental disability is diagnosed, a fetus should be aborted. This should not be mandated by law, just encouraged by society. People whose families have a history of mental retardation should also be discouraged from having children, again, not by the law, just by society. Eugenics is fine as long as it's not racial.
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Incipimus iterum
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 10:07:17 AM »

The mentally disabled should not be killed. They are humans. At the same time, they are absolutely a burden to society and anyone who says they are a blessing is clearly just trying to make themselves feel better about the horrible situation they are in. To minimize their burden to society, the government should run care homes where these people can be taken care of. If people want to take care of their own mentally retarded relatives by themselves, they should of course be allowed but if there are quality care homes, very few will choose that option. Also, as soon as a mental disability is diagnosed, a fetus should be aborted. This should not be mandated by law, just encouraged by society. People whose families have a history of mental retardation should also be discouraged from having children, again, not by the law, just by society. Eugenics is fine as long as it's not racial.

Would you really want to live in a world where you went through life knowing that if you didn't meet some more or less arbitrary standard of mental health nobody would have wanted you to be born?

Being depressed is not the same as being mentally retarded. For one, severity. For another thing, being depressed can be treated by pills. Being mentally retarded cannot.

I never said the potentially depressed should be aborted. That's something Sorenroy made up in a fit of hysteria.

Feel free to answer my question if you like.

I don't advocate abortion for easily treatable personality issues. I advocate abortion for severe intellectual disabilities. It's a very common position on the left. I suspect most of you attacking me also agree with it. That's why you haven't attacked my actual position and have instead attacked a strawman about aborting the depressed.
If you had a family member who had severe intellectual disabilities at birth would you want them to be aborted?
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