A Second Chance - CONCLUSION

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What about my favorite latter-day DINO, Joe Lieberman? 

You can find this in the 1980 congressional results, he was elected to Congress form CT in 1980. In RL he ran and lost.

Thanks, it's just that I haven't read any of this twice, and I haven't heard much about him since . Chris Dodd?

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...And it looks like he was elected to the Senate in 1980.

I smell an attempted bid at majority leader, and more party variation (ex. liberal republicans and conservative democrats) as this TL goes on.  Update please

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Well whatever you have in store, the suspense is killing me!  Update please

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Should be a nice l'il boat rocking update for ya.

Thanks for updating!  So many people neglect to note that dean was a Republican in the 60's, and the slightest butterfly could send him back into the GOP's corner.  He'd be a Hatfield Republican, but a libertarian leader in the party IMO

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Bump

Thats what I said!

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Bump

Thats what I said!

I have an update in the works.

Holy greasy balls, by the Gods, thank God!

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Dag gummit!  Not D'Amato!  But I guess Governor Ron Paul is a fair trade-off.  Lloyd Bensen is decent too; what's my favorite Massachusetts moderate doing? (The Democrat ).  Also, I've developed a softspot for Geraldine Ferraro, so I'd like to see what she and Mario Cuomo, Ed Koch, and Rudy are doing too!  Thanks

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Helms vs Hatfield. Now that would make an interesting race.

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Helms vs Hatfield. Now that would make an interesting race.

If the Democrats want a hypothetical me to vote the Republicans, then sure.

It's all part of the process of political re-alignment. Never fear. A number of Conservatives may not know who to support in elections either.

[crosses fingers, whispers while fingering rosary] Please make Hatfield vs. Helms, please, please, please, please........[/bring back Gold Democrats]

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Actually, I take it back.  Helms / Ferraro 1988!  Also, did Congressman Ashbrook die as otl?

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Actually, I take it back.  Helms / Ferraro 1988!  Also, did Congressman Ashbrook die as otl?

I can promise you that won't be the 1988 ticket.

As for Ashbrook, he served as Attorney General for Agnew and Bush (73-74) but resigned due to the administration's stance on Roe v Wade. He was considered as a potential candidate in 1976 and 1980, but turned down the opportunity. He was also considered for Attorney General in the Reagan Administration. Instead, Robert Taft Jr. took the spot. Ashbrook in turn was appointed to fill the remainder of Taft's term in the Senate. While running for re-election, he suffered his fatal heart attack and the OH GOP eventually nominated a no-name who in turn lost to the Democrat.

John Milan Ashbrook (Republican-Ohio)
-Member of the United States House of Representatives from Ohio's 17th District (January 3rd, 1961-January 3rd, 1973
-66th United States Attorney General (January 20th, 1973-July 19th, 1974)
-United States Senator from Ohio (January 13th, 1981-April 24th, 1982)

dammit!  Well then Buckley / Taft 88.

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Oh, Buckley will be involved alright.

I certainly hope so

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What's Paul Tsongas doing?

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Whoa!  Bill Richardson a Republican!  And Jesse Helms a Democrat!  I mean, they can have Rudy, but I have a certain soft spot for Johnny M.  What about Paul Laxalt?  A certain Texas Governor ladyperson? 

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No input?

I only thruput .  What's Olliver North doing?

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Kissinger? 

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Whoa!  Bill Richardson a Republican!  And Jesse Helms a Democrat!  I mean, they can have Rudy, but I have a certain soft spot for Johnny M.  What about Paul Laxalt?  A certain Texas Governor ladyperson? 

Johnny M? Laxalt is a Republican, NV Governor 1967-1971 & NV Senator 1971-1983. Just recently was narrowly defeated for re-election. Ann Richards is, like in RL, a Texas Dem who works on campaigns & whatnot.

McCain.

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Whoa!  Bill Richardson a Republican!  And Jesse Helms a Democrat!  I mean, they can have Rudy, but I have a certain soft spot for Johnny M.  What about Paul Laxalt?  A certain Texas Governor ladyperson? 

Johnny M? Laxalt is a Republican, NV Governor 1967-1971 & NV Senator 1971-1983. Just recently was narrowly defeated for re-election. Ann Richards is, like in RL, a Texas Dem who works on campaigns & whatnot.

McCain.  Please don't tell me reid won.

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Whoa!  Bill Richardson a Republican!  And Jesse Helms a Democrat!  I mean, they can have Rudy, but I have a certain soft spot for Johnny M.  What about Paul Laxalt?  A certain Texas Governor ladyperson? 

Johnny M? Laxalt is a Republican, NV Governor 1967-1971 & NV Senator 1971-1983. Just recently was narrowly defeated for re-election. Ann Richards is, like in RL, a Texas Dem who works on campaigns & whatnot.

McCain.  Please don't tell me reid won.

John McCain was re-elected narrowly over a strong opponent. Reid was actually elected in '74 I believe, though if I remember correctly, NV should've been a Republican gain in '80.

Laxalt is one of my favorite, uncredited politicians.  He's one of the many forgotten, likable Senators, and a gentle, clean brand of politics of another era entirely.

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Hoping to start the primaries soon.

Damn, you got me excited thinking it was an update

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Relatively small field compared to the eight-man Republican field of four years ago. Oh well.

NOTE: The endorsements will likely be added to as I'm in no mood to research senators from Louisiana and North Dakota.

Bump!

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Keep it coming!

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Relatively small field compared to the eight-man Republican field of four years ago. Oh well.

NOTE: The endorsements will likely be added to as I'm in no mood to research senators from Louisiana and North Dakota.

Guessing that's because Hatfield's more popular than Kennedy?

What were Helms economic views IRL?

I guess that's the reason. Really, almost any Republican could've won against Kennedy in the right circumstances except maybe Lindsay, Haig, and McCloskey.

As for Helms, he's worked to moderate on economics somewhat in light of the changing times and changing party. While he's still the advocate of big tobacco and whatnot, he's worked to build up the image of the champion of the poor white southerner in order to build up a state and national base.

Helms was a huge economic conservative, but he made sure his constituents got their tax dollars' worth.  He supported the Gold Stantards; take out most of the social crap and he's pretty close to otl rand Paul.

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Image > Substance

Oh I know.

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GO HELMS!

I know this as well