Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

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I hope Harris and Warren don’t destroy each other trying to become the anti-Biden choice.

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Honestly, her use of "Latinx" in the first debate was much more ridiculous than this.

How and why does that bother you? LOL.

Because no words in Spanish end in two consonants, and the word is grammatical nonsense in Spanish.

The people I know whose first language is Spanish liked it when Warren said Latinx.

Is this a sample that's likely to be representative of the general Spanish-speaking population, or is it limited to young third-generation Mexicans with purple hair?

No one born south of the boarder would say Latinx. It's a very strange Amercanism.

That’s simply untrue, I’ve seen numerous examples in Latin America.

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Y’all sound like Agustín Laje and all the Latin American reactionaries who complain about “gender ideology” right now, except you’re also making disprovable claims of objective fact. Here’s four examples of actual Latin Americans, native Spanish speakers, using “lenguaje inclusivo”. Uruguayan student union. Another one in Argentina. Costa Rican indigenous movement. And one in Mexico.

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It'd be more useful to convince Spain to do what Sweden did to Masculine/Feminine than use something like "Latinx".

What did we do?

Common/Neuter [or some other sort of classification] instead of Masc./Fem.

There'd be much less stigma if those endings were no longer "womanly" or "manly"

That’s exactly what this is, though, that’s the point. Todes, les estudiantes, les diputades - that’s what lenguaje inclusivo is, it’s trying to create a neuter form. The problem with that is that you run into the people who post in this thread, the same kind of people who talk about “la ideología de género” down south.

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https://www.clarin.com/sociedad/todes-diputades-lenguaje-inclusivo-avanza-jovenes-genera-polemica_0_Sy6mQt6em.amp.html

https://www.infobae.com/parati/news/2018/06/29/lenguaje-inclusivo-un-nuevo-genero-o-moda-pasajera/?outputType=amp-type

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https://twitter.com/deb4congressnm/status/1156266759743311873
Woo-Hoo! Big time Indian Country ally!
My far-fetched Warren/Haaland ticket might become a ticket just yet! Lmao

Oof, and right after Castro rolled out his big Native American policy platform.

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https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/1157691418649006081

It could be that she’s been running a positive campaign so far and hasn’t gone after her rivals, but I haven’t seen the kind of sustained opposition to her that I’ve seen from moderates towards Bernie or from progressives towards Harris and Biden. Of course, that could all change in the next six months, especially if someone like Harris or Biden tries to make it about electability and hammers on the Native American issue.

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Ok, but will Atlas pick it up? Probably not, but stay tuned, folks!

https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1165388072793595908?s=20

It’s literally three posts above you.

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If Bernie doesn't reach 51%, the DNC will give the nomination to anyone but Bernie. "Vote Blue No Matter Who" actually means "Anybody But Bernie."

If Warren gave a crap about progressives, much less Bernie, Warren would drop out and ask her supporters to support Bernie. Warren won't do that......she fancies herself getting 51% of the vote, or preventing Bernie from getting 51% so the DNC will nominate Warren instead of Bernie. That is EXACTLY what is going on here.

Warren's campaign this time JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ! Warren doesn't have a PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT BACKING HER...Warren isn't the Mother of Progressives...Bernie Sanders EARNED THE TITLE of Father of Progressivism and the NOMINATION LONG AGO......Warren's campaign this time PROVES she doesn't give a crap about Progressives and implementing the progressive agenda........she would rather run and takeaway votes from Bernie so the DNC can select their DNC candidate: ELIZABETH WARREN !

That's her strategy: Stop Bernie from getting 51% so SHE ALONE can be selected by the DNC for privately kissing the DNC's ass...and she certainly has been doing that because Warren's plan is for Bernie to NOT reach 51% so the DNC can choose Warren to be the DNC nominee.
If you think Warren's campaign is harmless to progressives and Bernie, think again.

The Warren supporters in this group will cry foul about my post, but my post IS ACCURATE !

btw, I support Warren for a cabinet position in a Sanders administration. Appoint her to Attorney General to see how sincere and effective Warren really is.

I believe Warren BELIEVES if she doesn't beat Bernie for the DEM nomination now, Bernie will become President in 2020 and for the next eight years; she won't have a chance to be President for eight years.

Warren KNOWS if she doesn't knock Bernie out now, she won't have a chance to become President until 2028, and by then Warren will be running against AOC....it's do or die for Warren RIGHT NOW !

Warren’s wicked strategy is to...become President? I’m shocked.

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So Warren’s too close to Hillary Clinton and therefore a secret neoliberal, even though the big banks are scared of her and desperately want to prevent her from winning.

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Sanders supporters are absolutely correct that Warren is not serious about single-payer, and her inclination to not waste legislative time on a health care push that will definitely fail is a good reason to prefer her. Discuss.

If she weren’t serious about it she could just not support it.

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Wow, what a generous gesture from the Warren camp

https://twitter.com/EWarenn/status/1175935924451962880

Sjoyce, I like you and I think you don’t deserve a lot of the criticism you get, but this is just stupid.

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It's true that a majority of Americans like their private health insurance. However, it's also true that almost all of those people aren't chronically ill. Of course healthy people will say they like their health care; they haven't had to worry about it. The problem is that the current system isn't working for the people who actually need it.

Warren needs to just come out and say this instead of pussyfooting around the subject all the time-- avoiding saying whether she'll raise taxes or abolish private insurance or whatever. She gains nothing by being vague right now, especially when her main appeal is that she's a policy wonk. I'm a libertarian, but even Adam Smith said the government needed to provide certain services, and given the number of perverse incentives in our current health care system I'm somewhat open to the discussion of single-payer health care. But that requires an actual discussion in which the progressive left clearly states what it wants to do.

She literally raised her hand to say she’d abolish private insurance in the first debate.

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And now, we see that Elizabeth Warren has even more claims that she's a native: It was brought up at her mother's funeral! Her mom and dad had to elope because the love defied grandparent racism! This is ridiculous. She's been even more deceptive than previously known.

https://twitter.com/alytadeleon/status/1178019629102505986?s=21

What are you talking about? None of this information is new. She was brought up believing that story because that’s what her family taught her.

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Total fraud. She is on record saying that she had to quit because she didn't have the qualifications. There is literally video of her saying the same. This is Trump level pathological lie.

It is fair to say that Warren supporters are Trump type cultists openly defending such fraud against video evidence of Warren.

You are an embarrassment to Sanders supporters and the whole progressive movment. Warren has done more work for the left in one month than anyone on here has done in their whole life.

And I say this as a one-eyed Sanders supporter.

Ooh I’m a one-eyed Warren supporter!

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Total fraud. She is on record saying that she had to quit because she didn't have the qualifications. There is literally video of her saying the same. This is Trump level pathological lie.

It is fair to say that Warren supporters are Trump type cultists openly defending such fraud against video evidence of Warren.

You are an embarrassment to Sanders supporters and the whole progressive movment. Warren has done more work for the left in one month than anyone on here has done in their whole life.

And I say this as a one-eyed Sanders supporter.

Ooh I’m a one-eyed Warren supporter!

I very much like both. Sanders is obviously my number 1, but Warren is a close second. Most Sanders supporters with a brain would be thinking the same way.

Oh, me too, I’m only behind Warren because I think she has a better shot at beating Biden; if I could pick the president (or the nominee) with a magic wand I’m really not sure who I’d pick.

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Do you guys like the idea of a Warren/Gillum ticket?

To quote our president, I like people who didn’t lose elections.

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I don't see what Gillum adds to the ticket. Abrams would be a great choice, but she will almost certainly sit 2020 out and challenge Kemp in 2022. Am I the only one that thinks there aren't any perfect VP options? Like for any of the candidates?

Tammy Duckworth would be a good VP IMO.

A ticket with two women isn't unlikely, but methinks it won't go over well. I would love this ticket, but you know...America gonna America. Duckworth is also from a safe D state and doesn't necessarily help drive out the voting demographics that Warren needs.

And how about Senator Catherine Cortez Masto?  

Would be ideal but she’s DSCC chair.

That is a complication, but not insurmountable.  I like the idea of her as Elizabeth Warren's running-mate in the sense that even if (God forbid) Warren loses narrowly to either Trump or Pence next year, she would be the instant 2024 frontrunner.  And the face of a new generation ready to take over the reins of the Democratic Party from the aging baby boomers.   

What? Tim Kaine wasn’t the instant frontrunner this time.

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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1192526820559785986?s=20

Black people of various specific genders are the  "backbone of democracy,"  whatever that means.

I mean, historically speaking they are.