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« on: August 14, 2020, 10:56:54 PM »

Was reading the 2nd article and saw the photo they have of the 19 year old. That guy *really* needs dress shirts that fit properly

Ironically enough, the 19-year-old from Kansas looks older than this 26-year-old from Missouri who also won his primary and is likely going to his state legislature.

Why does it feel like the vast majority of 20 year olds running for office are Republicans? This 'Americans for Prosperity' kid and the 24 year old real-estate CEO in NC-11 feel like outliers amongst their generation

I sense a lot of it is wealth-related

Madison Cawthorn (NC-11) received a multimillion dollar settlement stemming from the car accident that confined him to a wheelchair. No idea about the Kansas City guy but according to one of his campaign finance reports, he loaned his campaign $10,000, which is typically not something a 26 year old schoolteacher is in a position to do unless they have money from somewhere else.


Also of note: If he does win, I believe that makes him the first officeholder to be born in the 21st century.
There could be some local school board member or town councilman or something.

But this would appear to be true in state level politics. The closest person thus far is West Virginia Delegate Caleb Hanna, born in October 1999.

He's a black Republican in West Virginia. He should be asking the GOP to pay him a generous retainer to remain in office so they can point to him as evidence that they're not just a racist white people party.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2020, 03:54:40 PM »

Was reading the 2nd article and saw the photo they have of the 19 year old. That guy *really* needs dress shirts that fit properly

Ironically enough, the 19-year-old from Kansas looks older than this 26-year-old from Missouri who also won his primary and is likely going to his state legislature.

Why does it feel like the vast majority of 20 year olds running for office are Republicans? This 'Americans for Prosperity' kid and the 24 year old real-estate CEO in NC-11 feel like outliers amongst their generation

I sense a lot of it is wealth-related

Madison Cawthorn (NC-11) received a multimillion dollar settlement stemming from the car accident that confined him to a wheelchair. No idea about the Kansas City guy but according to one of his campaign finance reports, he loaned his campaign $10,000, which is typically not something a 26 year old schoolteacher is in a position to do unless they have money from somewhere else.


I actually read about Cawthorn today, throughout the rest of this he'll be referred to as "wheelie" and it seems to me that he actually didn't get any money from the insurance settlement. Basically, as I understand it. He was going back home from spring break with a friend, friend falls asleep at the wheel and crashes into a concrete divider, Wheelie is partially paralyzed, after all the medical stuff he has around $3 million in medical debt I guess he didn't have insurance or something, Friends insurance company offers Wheelie $3 million to cover the expenses, Wheelie sues and demands $30 million, Judge rules in favor of Insurance company. Later on, he worked for Mark Meadows district office, went to college for a semester and then dropped out, his business "SPQR holdings" has one employee which is himself, I'd like to note it's pretty interesting that his business SPQR is the same as the acronym for the Roman Senate.

Final note, his website is atrocious, his issue profiles are all 1-2 sentences, I've seen school board candidates with better websites.

He's been an unreliable narrator in all of this.

When you're in an accident that's someone else's fault, the way it works is you get whatever surgery/medical treatments you need and your health insurance pays for it, but they then file a subrogation lien with the liable party's insurance company. (Or, if you don't have insurance, then the doctors/hospitals will file those liens with them because that is how they'll get paid.) So when you get a settlement/judgment, the money to pay for that gets taken out of your settlement.

My understanding of what happened with Madison Cawthorn is that his friend was driving a car owned by his dad's company, which had a $3M liability policy. The liability insurer offered to pay him the maximum $3M payout allowed by the policy. After some ambiguous back-and-forth between the Cawthorns and the insurer, they hired an attorney who rejected the offer and filed a lawsuit against them and some other parties they claimed were liable.

A couple of years go by and Cawthorn finally accepts the policy limits from those insurance companies. $3M and whatever other policies were involved. Then he turns around and enters into a separate settlement with his friend and his friend's father and his father's company for $30M. They obviously did not have $30M to give him so that opened the door for his friend to file a bad faith lawsuit against the insurance company (for not protecting him from liability over and above the policy limits), and the settlement agreement involved assigning that right to sue to Cawthorn so that he could theoretically just get the $30M from the insurance company himself (since, again, the friend didn't have $30M to give him in the first place).

This led to a federal lawsuit because the insurance company was not a party to that $30M settlement and the court affirmed existing case law that Cawthorn did not have a right to sue them in that manner.

tl;dr A Republican, despite the GOP being all about opposing "frivolous lawsuits", filed a frivolous lawsuit and lost.

If you look at his financial disclosure, it's clear that he's living off of (1) dividends and capital gains from stocks he bought with his settlement money; (2) a small disability pension that he mentioned in one of his depositions.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2020, 01:41:54 PM »

Again, how the hell did Frownfelter bungle the primary this badly? How much oppo did his campaign do & how much did they spread the word? Is he just a bad candidate and/or politician? Did Coleman run a particularly strong campaign? Poor turnout? I wouldn't have much faith in Frownfelter if he stays in Topeka because the legislature refuses to acknowledge the 19-year-old edgelord that may get more votes than him

There is very little opposition research done for low-level races like state house because those campaigns just don't have the budget to hire a bunch of lawyers and consultants to compile giant binder-sized dossiers on people like in presidential races.

You do basic stuff - look at the financial disclosures, check for a criminal record or tax liens. Old people don't get how social media works; they're not going to look into that stuff. Certainly nothing to the level of a presidential race where you're going to the candidate's alma mater and requesting a copy of their senior thesis to look for something incriminating.

Notice how whenever a low-level politician like a local mayor or state legislator gets caught in a scandal, it's usually because of something a particularly resourceful journalist uncovered, not something their opponent's campaign found.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2020, 05:12:21 PM »

Apparently not getting to serve in a state legislature is now "cruel and unusual punishment" according to people on Twitter.

There are plenty of 19 year olds out there who didn't coerce nude photos out of classmates in middle school. Why not nominate one of them?
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2020, 04:13:08 PM »

How do write-ins work in Kansas?

Is Frownfelter an officially registered write-in candidate?

Would ballots spelling his name wrong be thrown out?
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