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Dabeav
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« on: January 07, 2021, 02:43:31 PM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-was-livid-after-all-the-things-ive-done-for-trump-according-to-oklahoma-senator-who-spoke-with-the-vp/ar-BB1cyQEq?ocid=uxbndlbing

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Vice President Mike Pence became uncharacteristically angry on Wednesday during the siege on the Capitol, according to Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma.
"I've known Mike Pence forever," Inhofe told reporters on Capitol Hill Wednesday night. "I've never seen Pence as angry as he was today."
"I had a long conversation with him. He said, 'After all the things I've done for [Trump].'"
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2021, 03:59:38 PM »

And there it is folks, BUT BLM/ANTIFA!

Yeah, you deleted all the posts yesterday about it.  One doesn't forgive the other, but the 100 days of the Siege of Portland, the CHAZ, etc were all more violent than this event.  It just hit "closer to home" for some.  I moved here from the Twin Cities due to people burning down many city blocks of businesses and homes.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2021, 04:09:51 PM »

I guess I'm just dense, I don't see the equivalency in people rioting when unarmed minorities are murdered by the police and a bunch of entitled white right wing terrorists try to overthrow the will of the people.

I equivocate death with death, destruction with destruction.  No matter the purported cause of these events, the individual actors of these crimes are not necessarily part of the movements they co-opt.

And I feel for people that lost their businesses and don't have a massive federal infrastructure to protect or recompense our affected elected officials.
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Dabeav
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2021, 04:22:13 PM »

Imagine thinking a block party is comparable to an attempted coup.

Imagine thinking a "block party" involves "four shootings, two deaths, arson, and several alleged sexual assaults."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/2/21310109/chop-chaz-cleared-violence-explained
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Dabeav
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2021, 04:29:55 PM »

Imagine thinking a block party is comparable to an attempted coup.

Imagine thinking a "block party" involves "four shootings, two deaths, arson, and several alleged sexual assaults."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/2/21310109/chop-chaz-cleared-violence-explained


So still not as bad as yesterday, even if you ignore the trying to overturn a presidential election and install a dictatorship aspect of it. To say nothing of their motivation of lynching Mike Pence.

If Antifa or BLM actually stormed the Capitol like some Black Panthers instead of just burning down random businesses, smashing windows, looting, and having a "block party" and demanded change; I'd probably have more respect for them.
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Dabeav
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2021, 04:40:46 PM »

Imagine thinking a block party is comparable to an attempted coup.

Imagine thinking a "block party" involves "four shootings, two deaths, arson, and several alleged sexual assaults."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/2/21310109/chop-chaz-cleared-violence-explained


Worth noting that despite the name "Capitol Hill"; the Washington state legislature and governor mansion are nowhere near CHAZ.

If the MAGA people had instead say, taken over some park or square in DC and started camping there, it would definitely be acceptable, at least for a week or 2.

Taking over the capitol is not comparable to CHAZ

Yes, I know I've been there.  The capitol city is Olympia anyway, not Seattle.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2021, 06:18:52 PM »

Kasparov looks like a soothsayer now.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 07:10:15 PM »



And here we go /Joker

already up!

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2021, 07:15:04 PM »

Finally a real concession; I'm surprised. Or at least close as we'll ever get.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2021, 07:21:45 PM »

Finally a real concession; I'm surprised. Or at least close as we'll ever get.


I refuse to watch his video.  What does he say, in the way of concession?

No claims he still won, just that he was "protecting democracy" with his legal challenges and then says, "a new administration will be inaugurated January 20th.  My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power."
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2021, 07:27:26 PM »

The video is actually very good. He should have recorded this video on November 6 or 7 when it became clear that he had lost the election.

He should resign now to avoid being impeached and Pence should pardon him.


Agreed, it's about as presidential as Trump gets.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2021, 07:41:32 PM »

Last line clear hint for 2024. If he truly does leave office on January 20th and nothing weird happens again then that's his plan.


And I guarantee you the blue avatars condemning him now will gladly vote for him again in 2024, because "muh Biden," or "muh Kamala," or whatever else.

Nope, I won't. "Fool me once, can't fool me again!" - GWB
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2021, 08:26:35 PM »

The crescendo of the Trump presidency is a policeman being beaten to death with a fire extinguisher amidst a coup attempt.

Any chance of the GOP maintaining international respect and a political legacy going into the Biden administration is dead.

Trump, Mitch, McCarthy, and the cabinet will see their day in hell.

I hope what's left of the party will pass into the hands of the Kim Klaciks and Joe Collinses of the country.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2021, 08:42:46 PM »

The three Trump Supreme Court justices need to resign too, but not until Biden is in office.

Why? They never supported his election shenanigans.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2021, 09:00:06 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2021, 09:10:08 PM »



Still an atrocious woman. Corrupt, cruel, ignorant, and incapable of discharging the duties of her office. The fact that she was even confirmed in the first place is a damning indictment of this country.

I never really cared, because I still think the DoEd is hot garbage.
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2021, 03:52:40 PM »

We had people with Nazi and Confederate symbols storm the Capitol, something the actual Nazis and Confederates were never able to do. It’s just crazy.

I never thought about it that way, but you are correct.
There was a disturbing green (lime-green) flag these Fascists had that I saw on TV, that very similarly resembled Nazi Germany's naval battle flag (Kriegsmarine).
Nazi scum!

Does anyone know more about what this green flag, exactly represented to these trump loons?

I remember seeing the Kekistan flag too.



It's used by the subset of the Alt-right community who post Pepe the Frog memes.




Yes, I believe that is the one I saw the trump Fascists waving.
Notice how it is very similar to the Nazi Kriegsmarine (Navy) battle flag, used by Germany through all of WWII (shown above).


It's a meme flag to poke fun at PC culture and them banning everything, especially offensive comedy.
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E: 2.19, S: -5.39

« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2021, 05:36:56 PM »

Trump Terrorists are being added to the no-fly list:


What a crybaby. Hope he likes long drives!

Sickening.  Quit crying, you pussy.  As we used to say, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2021, 05:43:37 PM »

There is a video circulating on Parler that is calling for more trouble on the 20th.


Michael Moore did an excellent livestream yesterday warning about further events with armed Trump supporters on inauguration week in DC and all 50 state capitals.

People want to hate him, but he's been right about things more often than not.
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2021, 06:31:36 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks Trump can recover from this by 2024?
Or am I just a doomer?

Stick a fork in him.


This, anyone with half a brain has changed their perspective from this week's events. Look at that Jeanine Pirro vid, even she's flipping on him.  Only the diehards are left.

At best if he can even run (i.e. no impeachment conviction/ban) in 2024, he'll be a fringe candidate that only wins a few states on a independent ticket.  That's if the states even allow him on the ticket.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2021, 08:17:59 PM »



 Squinting Really? Not Russians? Not Chinese...Iranians. Mmmk.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2021, 08:34:22 PM »

WTF?

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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2021, 06:45:33 PM »

This video response that Trump just released is probably the calmest and most subdued I’ve ever seen him.

At least so far, I’m still watching.

He's clearly in a secure bunker and has no control over anything he says.


Yea, it was actually bizarre because he was so calm and calling for unity.  He’s never once called for unity, at least not like that.

I don’t buy any of it, but i’m sure some will.

He'll be 'regretting' releasing this by Friday

I also expect various far-right characters to talk about how Trump doesn't really mean it.

Yeah, people talk about "gaslighting" and "dog whistles" but these people are gaslighting themselves into hearing dog whistles that aren't really there.
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