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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« on: August 08, 2018, 12:44:20 PM »

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

Has it ever occurred to you people that Democratic voters are already voting for the candidates they like?

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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 12:55:11 PM »

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

Has it ever occurred to you people that Democratic voters are already voting for the candidates they like?


Yes, but many are also voting for elect-ability's sake. Look at any of the posts here, any twitter posts, ask any D voters, and you will hear this phrase. "Yeah, I really like X, but Y is more electable, so Im voting for Y. Dont want to lose this race". Without the pressure of having to win the house/senate to stop Trump, D voters will be able to vote for candidates they like, without worrying about their elect-ability.

What evidence is this based on? There was poll out a couple months back on Democratic voters  preference of candidate types. The majority want candidates like Barack Obama, not candidates like Bernie Sanders.

The hard truth that some on the left have to accept is that they don't make up the majority of the Democratic base.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 01:05:04 PM »

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

Has it ever occurred to you people that Democratic voters are already voting for the candidates they like?


Yes, but many are also voting for elect-ability's sake. Look at any of the posts here, any twitter posts, ask any D voters, and you will hear this phrase. "Yeah, I really like X, but Y is more electable, so Im voting for Y. Dont want to lose this race". Without the pressure of having to win the house/senate to stop Trump, D voters will be able to vote for candidates they like, without worrying about their elect-ability.

What evidence is this based on? There was poll out a couple months back on Democratic voters  preference of candidate types. The majority want candidates like Barack Obama, not candidates like Bernie Sanders.

The hard truth that some on the left have to accept is that they don't make up the majority of the Democratic base.
That doesnt disprove what I said. In fact, Im not arguing for Sander Candidates. Im arguing that the argument of electability will die, and it will become obsolete when arguing who should win. Also, Obama is still a large icon to the entire D party, while Sanders is an icon to most of the D party, so that makes sense. A better question, even though I hate to bring this up,.....would be to ask do you want a candidate like Clinton or like Sanders, cause thats an actual debate that the D party has been having. Obama, however, is highly regarded by the D party, and many emotions of Obama are inflated due to the Trump presidency, like how Bush's approval increased when he left office.

Except there is no evidence that electability is a driving cause for many Democratic voters. No offense, but this just sounds like an excuse for why non-establishment type candidates keep losing to the establishment.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 08:33:25 PM »

lol at Pawlenty.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2018, 08:59:51 PM »

So happy to see Creepy Richard Painter get crushed

I actually agree with you.

Him choosing to run was such a self-serving move. If he truly gave a crap about the country, he should have donated to Smith and be done with it.
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Yank2133
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2018, 10:37:39 PM »

So 2016 is looking like a one-time fluke GOP win rather than the new normal.

The GOP said that same thing after 2010, then Obama was re-elected. Careful.
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