OH-PPP: Obama 51%, Romney 46%

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Ha!

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So Romney wins Indpendents by 5 but is losing by 5???  I don't think so.  

A lot of Republicans are calling themselves independents.

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Rasmussen was the worst pollster in 2010

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Rassmussen shows Obama up 1 in Ohio. PPP shows 5. Split the difference and you get Obama +3. I thnk that makes sense.

If it makes you feel better, whatever but it's not at O+3.  It's prob tied at best +1-2 for O and that's without enthusiasm taken into account.

PPP admits that all over the nation even they see a Romney surge but wait, wait OHIO is completely different and there's no movement.  Right.  Naive much?

And whoever said the early absentee numbers don't suggest dem enthusiam is down, youre not comparing them to last election.  My understanding is Dems are down in requests compared to same time over 2008.  

Ohio has been the hardest nut to crack for Romney. This is due to the amount of spending there Team Obama did the past 3-5 months. PPP isn't the only one finding this trend, even Rasmussen showed no bounce for Mitt after the debate.

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Rassmussen shows Obama up 1 in Ohio. PPP shows 5. Split the difference and you get Obama +3. I thnk that makes sense.

If it makes you feel better, whatever but it's not at O+3.  It's prob tied at best +1-2 for O and that's without enthusiasm taken into account.

PPP admits that all over the nation even they see a Romney surge but wait, wait OHIO is completely different and there's no movement.  Right.  Naive much?

And whoever said the early absentee numbers don't suggest dem enthusiam is down, youre not comparing them to last election.  My understanding is Dems are down in requests compared to same time over 2008.  

Ohio has been the hardest nut to crack for Romney. This is due to the amount of spending there Team Obama did the past 3-5 months. PPP isn't the only one finding this trend, even Rasmussen showed no bounce for Mitt after the debate.

I understand it's the most difficult swing state, I study all of this crap too.   Well the RCP showed a bounce, it's at 1.7.  there's currently 8 polls and 3 are +4,5,6 and the 5 others are obama +1 or Romney +1.

Like I said before the data on the ground doesn't add up and romney's crowds are at least 2-3x as big this last week there. 

Did you look at the pollsters?

Gravis, WeAskAmerica, and especially ARG are pretty bad. Only Rasmussen and SurveyUSA are the  only two pollsters out of the group that have any credibility.

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Yeah, there really no reason for voters to trust Romney on Libya or anything that really has to do with Foreign Policy.

Now if this were John McCain running, then yeah Cliffy may of had a point.