Oregon Republican Party launches recall campaign against Kate Brown

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (not only Republican).....

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

When someone "corrected" my post - i was forced to give a "correction" too: while Oregon Republicans are, obviously, mad - they are not alone, and have a lot of Democrats as a "company". There are no "good sides" for me in present day American politics.

[smoltchanov]

Wow!!!

So they suffered a major rejection in November '18 not only in the OR-GOV election, but also in the OR State House and Senate, and now they jump on the "Crazy Train"....

Here is a thread that I started which delves a bit into the OR State House/Senate Election results....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=306731.msg6566888#msg6566888

I wouldn’t call their defeat in 2018 a major defeat . In a + 9 Dem year nationally  , Knute lost by under 7 points against an incumbent. If Hillary was President , Knute very well could have won (Dudley and Mannix only lost due to right wing third party splitting the votes )


To put it in more context , Gretchen Whitmer did much better than Kate Brown did and MI is a much more less Democratic than Oregon 

Here i fully agree. Brown is the only Democrat on my personal list of 5 worst governors. But, in "normal" situation Oregon is simply "too Democratic"...

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

When someone "corrected" my post - i was forced to give a "correction" too: while Oregon Republicans are, obviously, mad - they are not alone, and have a lot of Democrats as a "company". There are no "good sides" for me in present day American politics.

Ok--- fair enough smoltchanov.

Come out and visit Oregon and you will likely receive a warm welcome.

If you chose to spend time in Southern Oregon, I can give you a roadmap of communities that have suffered for over 40 Years at the hands of Democratic and Republican Presidential Administrations alike.....

These are proud parts of "Rural Oregon" where now logs are rarely milled in Southern Oregon, where the Union Mills are now strip malls, where our Forests are getting shipped via rail, even bypassing the few pulp mills now remaining, so that Oregon logs can come back from China in the form of Toilet Paper....

The backlash against the decline of the Forest Products Industry, which first massively materialized in the form of the Reagan Recession of the early '80s which decimated smaller family owned mills as part of a "forced austerity package" and created massive levels of support for DEM PRES candidates in '84 and '88 ended up being exploited by the Extreme Right Wing that had conquered the Oregon Republican Party in the late '80s/ early '90s.

Now the Environmentalists are the enemy causing the shutdown of the mills, while the Forest Product Industry had already mined our forests and "double-breasted" by shifting timber plantations to the Southern US, where a new wave of forests were coming of age....

Meanwhile, the Oregon Republican Party goes ape s**t crazy after the OCA movement took control of the party on a platform of extreme homophobia, gutting abortion rights, banning porn, combined with another crazy wing of the movement that supports extreme property rights and tax cuts (Mainly a tax give-away to large timber companies and profitable ranchers in Central and Eastern Oregon)....

Regardless, the political geography of the State has changed, and over the decades many and many Old Skool Oregon Republicans have become Independents, and then many others eventually Democrats.

So, not sure why you are posting on an OR thread, but please review the history of my state, and will be happy to welcome you to Oregon....

Thanks for detailed story, and for kind invitation! I will try!

And now - few more words to clarify. Why did i posted in Oregon thread? Pure accdent, mostly. The foolishness of Republican party of Oregon action in this particular case led to general thinking about quality of modern American polics as a whole. So - it's happened, that this was most easy to put in THIS thread. My apologies for some distraction....

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

imagine saying this. Self-congratulatory "moderate" circle-jerking is one hell of a drug.

Trump: Mexicans are rapists. Build the wall. Very fine people. Etc.

AOC chief of staff: Sharice Davids is a friend but her voting record is enabling racism.

Raging moderates: THEY'RE THE EXACT SAME!

[offtopic]Yes, they are EXACT same. Both are idiots. And i don't classify idiots as "good idiots" and "bad idiots". All idiots are in the same group for me[/offtopic].